Who Has the Right-of-Way in an Intersection Collision?

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving a collision between a blue car and a red car at an intersection, focusing on the question of fault and right-of-way. Participants explore legal interpretations of lane changes in intersections, the specifics of traffic laws in different regions, and personal anecdotes related to similar incidents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that it is illegal to change lanes in an intersection, while another counters that it is legal in California under certain conditions.
  • There is uncertainty about whether a cross road with a two-way stop constitutes an intersection, which affects the interpretation of the blue car's actions.
  • A personal anecdote is shared about a similar accident involving a left turn, raising questions about fault and the interpretation of evidence in collision cases.
  • Another participant inquires about the verdict of the court case being watched, suggesting interest in how legal principles are applied in practice.
  • The outcome of the court case is mentioned, indicating that the red car was deemed to have the right-of-way, but the reasoning behind this decision is contested by the blue car's perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the legality of lane changes in intersections and the specifics of traffic laws, indicating that multiple competing views remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference state-specific traffic laws, which may vary and influence interpretations of the situation. There is also mention of personal experiences that highlight the complexities of determining fault in traffic incidents.

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Individuals interested in traffic law, accident liability, and personal experiences related to vehicle collisions may find this discussion relevant.

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Watching a court case on TV. This is the set up:

Blue car at STOP sign, turning right onto 4-lane road.
Red car on main road, but changes lanes in intersection.
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There is a collision. Who is at-fault? (Or who is more at fault?)

I have always understood that it is illegal to change lanes in an intersection (though it appears to be in contention as to whether that is a law).
I am not sure if a cross road with a 2-way stop constitutes an intersection.
If this does count as an intersection, then blue car may have been within his rights to pull into a lane that was ostensibly clear of oncoming traffic.

What do you think? And is the law specific to your state/region?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I have always understood that it is illegal to change lanes in an intersection
It's legal to do that in California, provided you do it right. i.e. the intersection is irrelevant.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
If this does count as an intersection, then blue car may have been within his rights to pull into a lane that was ostensibly clear of oncoming traffic.

What do you think? And is the law specific to your state/region?
Technically, the blue car must wait for oncoming traffic to pass, even though a driver should not change lanes while crossing the intersection.

When I was in grad school, my wife was involved in a similar accident, but she was doing a left turn instead of right. She saw a truck in the far lane of a two lane, and she decided to turn left. However, the truck changed lanes without signalling and the trailer being towed hit the right corner of my wife's car taking off the front fender. My wife was entering a four lane highway with a median for left turns. She claims she had completed the turn, or at least had entered the lane before the other driver changed lanes. When I checked under the car, I found yellow paint from the median barrier. I then checked the scene, where she was forced over the median about a car length from the intersection. So, the evidence suggested she was already occupying the lane when the other driver changed lanes and struck her car.

Nevertheless, she was cited for being at fault and for not yielding to cross-traffic. The officer didn't bother checking the evidence supporting her claim that she had successfully occupied the lane and the other driver did an illegal lane change. I found out after the fact, when I arrived back at our apartment, and my wife was sitting in a tow truck, and her car was backed into the parking space, and the front bumper was in the back seat protruding through an open window. I told her she should have called my office, since I was only a couple of miles away from where the accident happened. However, she was too shaken up to think to call me, and she was upset that she was cited for being at fault.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Watching a court case on TV. This is the set up:
What was the verdict in that court case? What state was it in?
 
berkeman said:
What was the verdict in that court case? What state was it in?
It was on Judge Judy*.

She declared that Ms. Redcar, on the main road, had right-of-way, and Mr. Bluecar did not yield to traffic.

Mr. Bluecar tried to argue that Ms. Redcar changed lanes in an intersection and JJ shut him down before he could finish his sentence.

*and now you know my secret shameful indulgence
 
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