News Who Poisoned Alexander Litvinenko?

[turbo]

i think this whole thing is an intimidation tactic aimed at his enemies. his enemies now know that no matter where in the world they are, no matter what they are doing, if putin wants them dead, they are likely to be subject to a vary long painful death where no one can help them so it's a vary bad idea to cross mr. putin

You have an interesting and compelling take on this. I must say that if I had the goods on Putin and/or the FSB, I would be a more than a little nervous about coming out with the proof after this demonstration of his reach. I've been thinking about how this assassination could be pulled off, and it would be very easy once you have the Po 120. I think that the safest way to handle the material would be to suspend it in water to avoid the chance of accidental inhalation. Then deliver it to the food or drink of the victim. It would be a cinch to poison someone if you met them for lunch. If you spill a drop or two on your skin, no problem. The alpha radiation won't penetrate your skin.

 

[kesh]

i think this whole thing is an intimidation tactic aimed at his enemies. his enemies now know that no matter where in the world they are, no matter what they are doing, if putin wants them dead, they are likely to be subject to a vary long painful death where no one can help them so it's a vary bad idea to cross mr. putin

yes, and i think that he is leaving it tracable to him deliberately, as part of his assertion of power. it's like leaving a calling card on a corpse.

also europe needs his oil and particularly his gas too much to be too indignant, and he knows it.

 

[Anttech]

also europe needs his oil and particularly his gas too much to be too indignant, and he knows it.

Actually we dont, we choose too for some reason. The EU could as easily shop elsewhere..

 

[kesh]

Actually we dont, we choose too for some reason. The EU could as easily shop elsewhere..

well. not immediately. any land route from europe to *anywhere* has to go through russia. britain is building more LNG terminals at the moment to get gas from the mideast by boat (ooh, another spot with no political issues). we've know for ages that north sea gas was running out, but bizarrely only just started to sort this out.

 

[Anttech]

well. not immediately. any land route from europe to *anywhere* has to go through russia.

You are forgetting Turkey through Asia Minor.

britain is building more LNG terminals at the moment to get gas from the mideast by boat (ooh, another spot with no political issues). we've know for ages that north sea gas was running out, but bizarrely only just started to sort this out.

Yeap, IIRC British Gas only thought that the gas in the North sea would last 10 years after they first turned on the pipes and refitted all the gas cookers (saw it on coast--on the beeb). Eastern Europe is more relient on Russia, the EU *can* shop elsewhere...

 

[kesh]

You are forgetting Turkey through Asia Minor.

last time i looked there was the waters of the bosphorus. and turkey is completely sewn up with russia gas wise. russia joint owning the infrastructure etc

and like i said, does europe have the infrastructure to shop elsewhere?

 

[Anttech]

last time i looked there was the waters of the bosphorus. and turkey is completely sewn up with russia gas wise. russia joint owning the infrastructure etc

and like i said, does europe have the infrastructure to shop elsewhere?

Last time I looked the Istanbul Straight was there as well. Its a whole 700M across, its bridged, it has pipes under and over it, it has a City all around it. Its about the width of the Danube. People drive over it, walk over it, swim across it. Its not exactly stopping any Land Cargo from getting through Turkey to Greece, its not a barrier. Yes its filled with water, well done, for pointing that out. The Fact of the matter is I can WALK to India from Here without getting wet, or getting on a boat, yes I have to cross some bridges... Please don't try and assert that if I want to go over Land to get there I need to go through Russia, because I dont.

Anyway the EU does have the infrastructure to shop elsewhere what are you basing that on?

 

[kesh]

calm down

i'm not going to argue with you whether a bridge over sea straits qualifies as a land route or not

the question is whether europe has gas supply security should russia wish to exert its influence to threaten that security; or whether, as you contend, we can simply go to a different market.

suggest you read http://www.energymarkets.info/indes/docs/ws-papers/indes-pc1.pdf"

 

[Anttech]

calm down

i'm not going to argue with you whether a bridge over sea straits qualifies as a land route or not

Good, ok, sorry

the question is whether europe has gas supply security should russia wish to exert its influence to threaten that security; or whether, as you contend, we can simply go to a different market.

Thanks I will read that.

 

[Yonoz]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi/20070108-125045-8464r.htm"

"We are 100 percent sure who administered the poison, where and how," a police source told the newspaper, which said that Russian authorities were not likely to send the two suspected killers to Britain for trial.
"Both claim to have been contaminated as victims of the plot," the Mirror quoted the source as saying. "The view in Moscow is that we have the wrong men."
The Independent said Litvinenko may have been poisoned days earlier than previously thought and could have been exposed to radioactive material twice. Two Russian businessmen, one a former KGB officer and the other a former Soviet soldier, were subjects of Scotland Yard's investigation.