Who scored the first ODI double century against South Africa today?

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The discussion centers around Sachin Tendulkar's achievement of scoring the first ODI double century against South Africa, exploring the significance of this milestone in cricket, the conditions under which it was achieved, and the implications for the sport.

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  • Some participants highlight Tendulkar's score of 200 runs as a remarkable achievement, noting the challenges of scoring in limited overs cricket.
  • Others express skepticism about the significance of the score, suggesting that the small size of Indian grounds and fast outfields may inflate batting statistics.
  • A few participants provide context about cricket scoring, explaining the difficulty of maintaining a high score within limited balls faced.
  • Some contributions reference cycling terminology, drawing parallels between the term "double century" in cricket and cycling, leading to humorous exchanges about the meanings.
  • There are discussions about the historical context of cricket records, including comparisons to past performances and the ranking of teams.
  • Participants debate the appropriateness of statistics used to assess batting performance at specific grounds, suggesting alternative methods for evaluation.

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Participants express a mix of admiration for Tendulkar's achievement and skepticism regarding the conditions that facilitated it. There is no clear consensus on the significance of the record or the validity of the statistics discussed.

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Some participants note the limitations of using specific statistics to evaluate performance, particularly given the low number of games played at certain grounds, and the influence of ground conditions on scoring rates.

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Against South Africa today, Tendulkar scored the first ODI double century.
 
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Geez! I saw he was 124 n.o after 33 overs and though SA might be in a bit of trouble! Mind you, I'm not sure 200 on the small, lightning fast Indian outfields would be 200 anywhere else. In any case, it's a mean feat, so well done to the Little Master!
 
In English, please? I'm too lazy to start googling terms, but I'm interested enough to want to know more aobut this accomplishment.
 
If Cricket is a religion then Sachin is God and i am his ardent devotee :)
 
Jack21222 said:
In English, please? I'm too lazy to start googling terms, but I'm interested enough to want to know more aobut this accomplishment.

That basically means that someone named Tendulkar rode 200 miles non stop in a bicycle race. Not an easy task. Most humans only have enough energy stored in their muscles and liver to survive 50 to 75 miles. Beyond that, you have to rely on supplemental energy, maybe by eating an energy bar every 15 minutes.

http://www.ultracycling.com/training/prep_for_double_centuries.html
 
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matt.o said:
Geez! I saw he was 124 n.o after 33 overs and though SA might be in a bit of trouble! Mind you, I'm not sure 200 on the small, lightning fast Indian outfields would be 200 anywhere else.
The previous high score for a team batting at Gwalior was 289 (by Pak, vs SL in 1997).

http://stats.cricinfo.com/indvpak/e...nnings_totals.html?class=2;id=758;type=ground

And it's certainly not like he did it against an easy team either - SA is ranked #3 in the ODI rankings.

http://www.cricinfo.com/rankings/content/current/page/211271.html
 
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hamster143 said:
That basically means that someone named Tendulkar rode 200 miles non stop in a bicycle race. Not an easy task. Most humans only have enough energy stored in their muscles and liver to survive 50 to 75 miles. Beyond that, you have to rely on supplemental energy, maybe by eating an energy bar every 15 minutes.

http://www.ultracycling.com/training/prep_for_double_centuries.html
:smile:

Wait, were you being serious? We do need that sarcasm/irony smiley.
 
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hamster143 said:
That basically means that someone named Tendulkar rode 200 miles non stop in a bicycle race. Not an easy task. Most humans only have enough energy stored in their muscles and liver to survive 50 to 75 miles. Beyond that, you have to rely on supplemental energy, maybe by eating an energy bar every 15 minutes.

http://www.ultracycling.com/training/prep_for_double_centuries.html

No, you missed the Odie part. It goes like this.

http://i-love-disney.com/disney-gallery/albums/Cartoons/Garfield/Animations/Odie/thumb_Odie1.gif
 
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Jack21222 said:
In English, please? I'm too lazy to start googling terms, but I'm interested enough to want to know more aobut this accomplishment.
The game is cricket. Here's a quickie intro:



No one in the game of cricket (specifically in the One-Day format), had, until yesterday, accomplished the feat of scoring 200 runs in a single match. What makes this difficult is that, in addition to having to last long enough without getting "out", you have a limited number of balls to face. Sachin Tendulkar - who broke the record yesterday - is considered by many cricket experts to be the best batter (or batsman) the game has today, and easily among the best of all time.
 
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Jack21222 said:
In English, please? I'm too lazy to start googling terms, but I'm interested enough to want to know more aobut this accomplishment.

I thought that is already too English. Did you mean American?
 
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Gokul43201 said:
The previous high score for a team batting at Gwalior was 289 (by Pak, vs SL in 1997).

http://stats.cricinfo.com/indvpak/e...nnings_totals.html?class=2;id=758;type=ground

That's not a particularly good statistic to test my hypothesis, especially given the low number of games played at Gwalior. Perhaps a better way to look at this is by comparing the batting averages on a ground-by-ground basis for grounds where there have been > 10 ODIs:

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=team_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=aggregate;view=ground"

or given Tendulkar brought up his 200 in the last over, perhaps we should look at the above, but sorted by average run-rate:

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=runs_per_over;qualmin1=10;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=aggregate;view=ground"

Given the above, I will stand by my statement! (which included "In any case, it's a mean feat, so well done to the Little Master!")

Amar.alchemy said:
If Cricket is a religion then Sachin is God and i am his ardent devotee :)

Yes, but this would have to be a polytheist religion which included the great Sir Donald Bradman!
 
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matt.o said:
That's not a particularly good statistic to test my hypothesis, especially given the low number of games played at Gwalior. Perhaps a better way to look at this is by comparing the batting averages on a ground-by-ground basis for grounds where there have been > 10 ODIs:

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=team_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=aggregate;view=ground"

or given Tendulkar brought up his 200 in the last over, perhaps we should look at the above, but sorted by average run-rate:

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=runs_per_over;qualmin1=10;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=aggregate;view=ground"

Given the above, I will stand by my statement! (which included "In any case, it's a mean feat, so well done to the Little Master!")
Agreed! Those are better ways to look at the stats.

Yes, but this would have to be a polytheist religion which included the great Sir Donald Bradman!
Few would disagree with that. And speaking of Bradman ... http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/story/96323.html
 
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matt.o said:
That's not a particularly good statistic to test my hypothesis, especially given the low number of games played at Gwalior. Perhaps a better way to look at this is by comparing the batting averages on a ground-by-ground basis for grounds where there have been > 10 ODIs:

http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=team_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=aggregate;view=ground"

From the URL above, it looks like Indian grounds are in general favor of batsmen. Is it due to smaller ground, fast rolling ground or slow pitch?
 
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In re cycling 'double century', 200 km or 120 miles is the shortest of the brevets to qualify for Paris-Brest-Paris or Boston-Montreal-Boston, 1200 km in 90 hours. Brevet, Audax or Randonee.
 
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Doug Huffman said:
In re cycling 'double century', 200 km or 120 miles is the shortest of the brevets to qualify for Paris-Brest-Paris or Boston-Montreal-Boston, 1200 km in 90 hours. Brevet, Audax or Randonee.
In English, please?
 
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Doug Huffman said:
In re cycling 'double century', 200 km or 120 miles is the shortest of the brevets to qualify for Paris-Brest-Paris or Boston-Montreal-Boston, 1200 km in 90 hours. Brevet, Audax or Randonee.

That is more properly called 'double metric century'.
 
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jobyts said:
From the URL above, it looks like Indian grounds are in general favor of batsmen. Is it due to smaller ground, fast rolling ground or slow pitch?

Slow pitches aren't generally conducive to scoring quickly. The grounds in India are small and have fast outfields, which I think is the dominant factor in the faster scoring rates and larger batting averages/inning totals..
 
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Man, its all anyone here can talk about these days. The worst part is that I don't really follow cricket and never really have.
 

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