Whom do you think will win the X-Prize and why?

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The discussion centers on predictions for the winner of the X-Prize, with participants expressing uncertainty about the teams' progress and potential. Scaled Composites, led by Burt Rutan, is viewed as a frontrunner due to its innovative design and successful test flights. Other teams, such as Armadillo Aerospace and PanAero, are also mentioned as contenders, with varying degrees of optimism about their chances. Participants highlight the importance of originality and economic viability in the designs, while some express skepticism about the likelihood of any team winning within the remaining timeframe. Overall, the conversation reflects a mix of excitement and doubt regarding the future of private space travel.
  • #31
cronxeh said:
If you want to launch stuff into space - the best way is to EM-accelerate them like a bullet, with a spin, and send off flying into outer space at a ZOOMing speed.
There's only one real problem with that idea - who's going to pay for it ? :wink:
 
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  • #32
it only requires electricity [very cheap] and if u want to include humans - some form of a liquid gel to keep em alive thru the 50-100+ Gs they'll pull off on take off

I haven't done any calculations with this thing (other than visualizing the whole process and result in my head)

but here are some additional snips that even a HS physics student can build, given the resources:

http://www.oz.net/~coilgun/theory/electroguns.htm


I mean really.. how hard can it be? :approve:
 
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  • #33
drag said:
There's only one real problem with that idea - who's going to pay for it ? :wink:
That's not a problem, that's a benefit. A rail-gun satellite launcher would be much cheaper than chemical rockets for launching satellites. But there are limitations such as payload size, durability, and orbital inclination.
 
  • #34
not to mention you won't be dumping any garbage into our oceans, or polluting the air.. the costs would be cut tenfold and time to takeoff and landing minimized to hours


Edit: got to love having ideas pop in hours after you post something.
Gravity as you all know is the weakest force, almost negligible

But really.. we have the technology to build super strong structures that would be light-weight and heat-resistant and whatnot.. why hasnt this been tried? The design was on the board in 40's all the way through 70's.
 
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  • #35
I don't care who wins as long as the final project is reasonable and innovative. The whole point was to get a cheap ride into space and if we take old plans that we knwo work just to win then there is no point.
 
  • #36
cronxeh said:
I think any design that uses a ROCKET to launch anything into space is essentially a highly inefficient, idiotic idea.

If you want to launch stuff into space - the best way is to EM-accelerate them like a bullet, with a spin, and send off flying into outer space at a ZOOMing speed.

Once in space, use booster rockets (some compressed gas - any gas will do) to maneuver around

I had a similar idea, but with an old-fashioned steam catapult like they use on aircraft carriers, only much bigger, of course. This would employed tried-and-true old technology, and would accelerate the vehicle slowly enough for passengers to survive. Just build the launch facility on the western slope of a tall mountain range (to shoot upward and to the east), as close to the Equator as possible, and near an existing power plant (for the steam). Requires no new technology at all.

Rutan has announced his first launchdate as Sept. 29th.
 
  • #37
WE HAVE A WINNER !

Watched the first flight live! Just saw the video of flight #2, now I'm saving up to buy my ticket! :wink:

See you guys up there.
 
  • #38
I was there to watch the last launch leading to the win. Hell I only live two hours from there so how could I NOT go? Man was it a great time!
 
  • #39
Creative research is having confidence in nonsense
- Burt Rutan;
From the documentary about his efforts:
Black Sky
The Race for Space.
Science Channel. 10/12/04

[its on right now if you're reading this in time]
 
  • #40
This is great! Make sure that you watch this.

Black Sky: The Race for Space

What does it take to build a space ship? Go behind-the-scenes as Burt Rutan designs and builds SpaceShipOne for entry in the X Prize competition. The competition was created to inspire the race for space tourism.
tv :: g
cc :: unavailable

On Air (ET):

Oct 13 2004
@ 07:00 AM

Oct 13 2004
@ 12:00 PM

Oct 13 2004
@ 03:00 PM

http://science.discovery.com/schedule/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=24963&gid=0&channel=SCI
 
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  • #41
My opinion is completely changed.

Burt Rutan is my new hero! He is truly inspirational. He is the man.
 
  • #42
cronxeh said:
it only requires electricity [very cheap] and if u want to include humans - some form of a liquid gel to keep em alive thru the 50-100+ Gs they'll pull off on take off

I haven't done any calculations with this thing (other than visualizing the whole process and result in my head)

but here are some additional snips that even a HS physics student can build, given the resources:

http://www.oz.net/~coilgun/theory/electroguns.htm


I mean really.. how hard can it be? :approve:


Ohh boy is this old or what? I bet in a year nothing changed - we still rely on chemical propulsion and waste money and environment :eek:
 
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  • #43
Just say no to E M Mass driver.

cronxeh said:
Ohh boy is this old or what? I bet in a year nothing changed - we still rely on chemical propulsion and waste money and environment :eek:
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Why some 50-100 G gelpacks needed electromagnetic mass driver system? Let's concentrate on carbon nanofiber research, and go for a Earth to GEO tether space elevator :!) system, from what I've seen it holds out the greatest promise for a mass space transportation system.
 

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