Why all operators in QM have a Hermitian Matrices

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The discussion centers on the nature of operators in quantum mechanics (QM), specifically addressing why operators are often represented as Hermitian matrices. Participants explore the conditions under which operators are Hermitian or anti-Hermitian and the implications for physical observables.

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  • Some participants assert that not all operators in QM are Hermitian, noting that only self-adjoint operators meet this criterion.
  • There is a discussion about anti-Hermitian operators, with one participant providing an example of an anti-Hermitian operator as i times any Hermitian operator.
  • Another participant emphasizes that observables must be represented by Hermitian operators to ensure real eigenvalues, which are necessary for physical interpretation.
  • A participant elaborates on the relationship between Hermitian operators and their eigenvalues, detailing a mathematical argument that supports the reality of eigenvalues through the properties of Hermitian operators.
  • One participant mentions that the requirement for Hermitian operators is a postulate of QM, providing a perspective on the independence of physical outcomes from the choice of basis in the representation of operators.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the classification of operators as Hermitian or anti-Hermitian. While there is a consensus that observables must be represented by Hermitian operators, the broader classification of all operators remains contested.

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The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the definitions and properties of operators in QM, particularly concerning the implications of Hermitian versus anti-Hermitian classifications. Some assumptions about the nature of observables and the mathematical framework of QM are not fully explored.

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Why all operators in QM have a Hermitian Matrices ?
 
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yes so all operators have a self-adjoint Matrices, which operator can be Represented as anti-Hermitian operators?
 
mwalmasri said:
yes so all operators have a self-adjoint Matrices, which operator can be Represented as anti-Hermitian operators?

It's not true that all operators are Hermitian, The simplest example would be i times any Hermitian operator, it's anti-Hermitian.
You may be asking why any operator representing observable is Hermitian. There is no proof for this because this is simply one of the postulates of QM. But if it's not true, you will have an observable that has complex-value eigenvalue, which doesn't make any physical sense.
 
yes,when I asked the question I mean a physical operator like a Hamiltonian... maybe I must be clear enough in my question. Hermitian is used because its have a real eigenvalue that is right...
Thanks
 
The eigenvalues of a hermitian operator are real,like hamiltonian which should be hermitian operator because it's eigenvalues are simply energy,which should be a real quantity.So all observables are associated with hermitian operator.
Assume a hermitian operator,and the eigenvalue eqn
A|a>=a|a>,assuming normalization of eigenstates,multiplying by <a|
<a|A|a>=a
taking complex conjugate of both sides,
<a|A|a>*=a*,
By hermiticity condition,<a|A|a>=<a|A|a>*,so a=a* implying reality of eigenvalues.
 
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Basically it's a postulate of QM.

The way I like to look at it however is as follows. Suppose we have some observational apparatus with n possible outcomes that have some real number yi assigned to each outcome. List them out as a vector and write it as sum yi |bi>. Now we come to a problem - its not basis independent - change to another basis and the yi change - but since the choice of basis is entirely arbitrary we expect nature to be independent of that choice. To get around that problem QM simply replaces the |bi> by |bi><bi| to give sum yi |bi><bi| which is the same regardless of basis. It is a Hermitian operator whose eigenvalues are the possible outcomes of the observation.

Thanks
Bill
 

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