Why Are Allowed Energy Levels Odd at ##x=0##?

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The discussion centers on the allowed energy levels of a particle in a one-dimensional potential well defined by the potential function \( V(x) = \frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2 \) for \( x < 0 \) and \( V(x) = \infty \) for \( x > 0 \). The participants clarify that the boundary condition at \( x=0 \) necessitates that the wave function is zero, resulting in only odd energy levels being permissible (i.e., \( n=1, 3, 5, \ldots \)). Additionally, the importance of correctly defining the potential's dimensions and solving the Schrödinger equation using Hermite polynomials is emphasized as crucial for understanding the system.

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Homework Statement
Find the allowed energy levels of a particle of mass m moving in the one-dimensional potential

energy well $$

V(x)=\left\{

\begin{array}{ll}

\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2, \ x > 0\\

0, \ x < 0

\end{array}

\right.

$$
Relevant Equations
Harmonic oscillator
I know that there is a boundary condition at ##x=0## where the wave function becomes zero however why are the allowed energy levels odd i.e. ##n=1, 3, 5 ..##
 
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tryingtolearn1 said:
Homework Statement:: Find the allowed energy levels of a particle of mass m moving in the one-dimensional potential

energy well $$

V(x)=\left\{

\begin{array}{ll}

\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2, \ x > 0\\

0, \ x < 0

\end{array}

\right.

$$
Relevant Equations:: Harmonic oscillator

I know that there is a boundary condition at ##x=0## where the wave function becomes zero however why are the allowed energy levels odd i.e. ##n=1, 3, 5 ..##
I believe there is no a physical way to answer this, maybe @PeroK can know one. But, anyway, this is a math implication so even we don't know why, we know that need to be it.

Why don't you try to solve the Schrödinger equation in both sides? Remember the conditions:
$$\psi, \psi'$$ is continuous.
 
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tryingtolearn1 said:
I know that there is a boundary condition at ##x=0## where the wave function becomes zero

Why?
 
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tryingtolearn1 said:
$$
V(x)=\left\{
\begin{array}{ll}
\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2, \ x > 0\\
0, \ x < 0
\end{array}
\right.
$$
Is this the correct potential?
 
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vela said:
Is this the correct potential?
Opps the correct potential is:

$$

V(x)=\left\{
\begin{array}{ll}
\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2, \ x < 0\\
\infty , \ x > 0
\end{array}
\right.
$$
 
tryingtolearn1 said:
Opps the correct potential is:

$$

V(x)=\left\{
\begin{array}{ll}
\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2, \ x < 0\\
\infty , \ x > 0
\end{array}
\right.
$$
I think the dimensions of your potential are incorrect. In SI units energy is ##kg(\frac{m}{s})^2##, where ##kg## is kilograms, ##m## is meters and ##s## is seconds, but the units of your potential are ##kg(\frac{m}{s})^2(radians)^2##. If you can fix the units issue you face the problem solving Schrödinger's equation in a quadratic potential. Hint: The wave function is expressed in terms of Hermite polynomials.
 
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Fred Wright said:
I think the dimensions of your potential are incorrect. In SI units energy is ##kg(\frac{m}{s})^2##, where ##kg## is kilograms, ##m## is meters and ##s## is seconds, but the units of your potential are ##kg(\frac{m}{s})^2(radians)^2##. If you can fix the units issue you face the problem solving Schrödinger's equation in a quadratic potential. Hint: The wave function is expressed in terms of Hermite polynomials.
Does it matter?
 
Fred Wright said:
I think the dimensions of your potential are incorrect. In SI units energy is ##kg(\frac{m}{s})^2##, where ##kg## is kilograms, ##m## is meters and ##s## is seconds, but the units of your potential are ##kg(\frac{m}{s})^2(radians)^2##. If you can fix the units issue you face the problem solving Schrödinger's equation in a quadratic potential. Hint: The wave function is expressed in terms of Hermite polynomials.

Angles are dimensionless, and the potential energy of a harmonic oscillator, ##V(x) = \frac{1}{2}kx^2 = \frac{1}{2}m\omega^2 x^2##, has dimensions ##[V] = ML^2 T^{-2}##. The units of angular velocity can be taken to be ##\mathrm{s^{-1}}##.
 
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etotheipi said:
Angles are dimensionless, and the potential energy of a harmonic oscillator, ##V(x) = \frac{1}{2}kx^2 = \frac{1}{2}m\omega^2 x^2##, has dimensions ##[V] = ML^2 T^{-2}##. The units of angular velocity can be taken to be ##\mathrm{s^{-1}}##.
You're right. My bad.
 
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tryingtolearn1 said:
Oops, the correct potential is:
$$
V(x)=\begin{cases}
\frac{1}{2}m\omega^2x^2, & x < 0 \\
\infty, & x > 0
\end{cases}
$$
OK, so what you want to do is follow @LCSphysicist's suggestion in post #2. That should lead you to the answers to your question and @etotheipi's in post #3. If you get stuck, post again and show us your work, and we can go from there.
 
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Well, sure, but the point was to have the OP figure that out for himself/herself.
 
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vela said:
Well, sure, but the point was to have the OP figure that out for himself/herself.
Oops, I didn't see it that way. Post deleted.
 

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