Why Can Pl Be Taken Out of the Commutation in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the commutation relations in quantum mechanics, specifically between momentum (P) and angular momentum (L). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the manipulation of a term (Pl) within a commutation relation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of a commutation identity and its implications for the problem. Questions arise about the validity of removing terms from the commutation and the interpretation of results involving the delta function.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations and mathematical identities. Some guidance has been provided regarding the commutation identity, and there is acknowledgment of the complexity surrounding the delta function.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation and definitions used in the context of quantum mechanics, particularly concerning the delta function and its application in the problem.

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the problem asks for the commutation between momentum P and angular momentum L.

My solutions give an intermediate step of:

ejkl [Pi, Xk *Pl]

ejkl[Pi,Xk]Pl

I don't understand why we can just take out a Pl from the commutation. its not at the end of both parts of the commutation and so will be acted on in a different order
 
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There is a very useful identity,
[A, BC] = [A, B]C + B[A, C],
I suggest you remember it forever :-)

You can easily prove it by writing out the commutator, if you wish.
 
thanks for pointing this out to me. but wouldn't I have two terms if I used that relation?

I have also been told that Pi acting on Xk results in -i*h-bar deltaik

I thought the delta was only used to denote a dot product whereas a differential was just shown as a differential?
 
Doesn't the different components of momentum commute, i.e. [Pi,Pj]=0, i != j ?

In that case the result follows by using the mentioned identity (if I correctly understand that when you write Pi and Pj you mean the different components of momentum P).
 
I can't believe I missed that... I still don't know where this delta comes from though
 
i figured it out, thanks anyway
 

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