Why can the O7+ ion be consider hydrogen-like

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In summary, O7+ can be considered a hydrogen-like ion because it has only one bounded electron, similar to the hydrogen atom. It is composed of one electron, eight protons, and eight neutrons. The charge of an ion is designated by its net charge, so even if an ion has released some electrons, it will still be denoted by its overall charge. Thus, O7+ is an ion with a charge of 7+ due to the loss of 7 electrons from a neutral O atom.
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Explain, in two or three sentences, why the O7+
ion can be considered to be a
hydrogen-like ion. State what subatomic particles it is composed of and how
many there are of each


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I know the correct answer to this, I just don't understand why it's correct. O7+ only has one bound electron. Why then is it called an O7+ion? should it not be an O1+ion as the other 7 electrons have been released?
 
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The convention is to designate ions by their net charge, not by how many electrons it has.

When you remove 7 electrons from a neutral O atom, the result is an ion with a charge of 7+. Thus, O7+
 
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Dear Limesy:

1. Neutral O is the 8th element and has 8 protons and 8 electrons. O7+ acts like the hydrogen atom because it has only one electron.

(Further comments: Indeed we need to know the kinetics and dynamics of the bounded electrons, so we run into Quantum Mechanics. However, due to mathematical difficulties, for multi-electron atoms, even like the simplest Helium, we haven't got the rigorous solution to draw an exact picture for the electrons, though we could in principle. The atom of hydrogen is the only one that could be analyzed rigorously, so people developed the quantum theory and use H-atom for testing. On this point, the most significant property of the simplification of H-atom is that H-atom has only one bounded electron. Hence, we use not only H-atoms, but other severely ionized one-electron ion to test quantum theory. So, the significance of H-like atoms is only remarkable for advanced physics and chemistry.)


2. A O7+ atom is composed of one electron, eight proton, and eight neutron for O_16(Oxide nucleus with mass number 16).

3. If external energy is properly introduced, a neutral atom will be ionized. Given a neutral atom with mass number A, proton number = positive charge units = atomic number in the periodical table = Z, bounded electron number = Z, neutron number = A-Z. Z protons carry Z units of positive charge, and Z electrons carry Z negative charge. As the whole atom is neutral to particles in the distance. However, if the atom is ionized, or it loses electrons, the number of protons will exceed that of electrons, the positive charge will exceed the negative, and the atom (ion) will appear to be electrically positive. For the atom losing $m$ electrons, only Z-m electrons remains bounded, and the bulk of the total charge will be $m$. That is to say, for an atom losing m electrons, it will carry m positive charge units when interacts with external particles.

Hence, Oxide losing 7 electrons carries 7 units of positive charge, and is denoted O7+.
 

1. What is the difference between a hydrogen atom and the O7+ ion?

The main difference between a hydrogen atom and the O7+ ion is the number of protons and electrons. A hydrogen atom has one proton and one electron, while the O7+ ion has seven protons and six electrons.

2. Why is the O7+ ion considered hydrogen-like?

The O7+ ion is considered hydrogen-like because it has the same electronic structure as a hydrogen atom, with a single electron in the outer shell. This makes it behave similarly to a hydrogen atom in terms of its chemical and physical properties.

3. How does the O7+ ion acquire its charge of +7?

The O7+ ion acquires its charge of +7 by losing six electrons. This occurs when an oxygen atom, which normally has six valence electrons, undergoes ionization and becomes an ion.

4. Can other elements form ions that are considered hydrogen-like?

Yes, other elements can form ions that are considered hydrogen-like. This occurs when an atom has only one electron in its outer shell, regardless of the element. These ions are often referred to as "hydrogen-like ions."

5. What are some practical applications of studying hydrogen-like ions, such as the O7+ ion?

Studying hydrogen-like ions, including the O7+ ion, can provide valuable insights into atomic and molecular structure and behavior. This knowledge is important in fields such as materials science, chemistry, and astrophysics. Additionally, hydrogen-like ions are used in particle accelerators and nuclear fusion research.

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