Why Can't We See Beyond the Cosmic Horizon Despite Observing the Oldest Light?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why we cannot see beyond the cosmic horizon despite being able to observe the cosmic microwave background (CMB), which is the oldest light from the universe. Participants explore concepts related to the finite speed of light, the age of the universe, and the implications of cosmic expansion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why we cannot see beyond the cosmic horizon if we can observe light from 300,000 years after the big bang.
  • Another participant explains that light travels at a finite speed and the universe has a finite age, which limits our observation capabilities.
  • It is noted that there was light before the CMB, but it was scattered due to the universe being opaque at that time.
  • Participants discuss the expansion of the universe and its relation to the cosmic horizon, suggesting that the rate of expansion affects the distance to this horizon.
  • One participant mentions that there are different types of horizons in cosmology, indicating that clarity on which horizon is being discussed is necessary for specific answers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the finite speed of light and the age of the universe as factors in observing the cosmic horizon. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the implications of cosmic expansion and the different types of horizons in cosmology, leaving some aspects of the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need to specify which horizon is being discussed, indicating potential limitations in understanding due to varying definitions and concepts in cosmology.

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Hello everyone,

Questions keep on rushing through my mind. If we can see light from 300,000 years after the big bang (THE OLDEST LIGHT EVER) then why can't we see beyond our cosmic horizon? We are seeing the oldest light ever... then why do we have a cosmic horizon?
 
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Because light travels at a finite speed and the universe has a finite age.

There was light before the CMB, but we cannot see it because the universe was opaque and that light scattered.
 
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Orodruin said:
Because light travels at a finite speed and the universe has a finite age.

There was light before the CMB, but we cannot see it because the universe was opaque and that light scattered.
And the universe is expanding as well is that correct? So that's why we have a cosmic horizon?
 
yazanhomsi said:
And the universe is expanding as well is that correct? So that's why we have a cosmic horizon?
The rate of expansion over time determines the distance to the cosmic horizon.
 
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Note that there are several different horizons in cosmology, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_horizon
The particle horizon would be there even if the universe was not expanding, but had a finite age. If you want specific answers you will need to specify which horizon you are talking about.
 
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Chalnoth said:
The rate of expansion over time determines the distance to the cosmic horizon.
Alright got it
 
Orodruin said:
Note that there are several different horizons in cosmology, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_horizon
The particle horizon would be there even if the universe was not expanding, but had a finite age. If you want specific answers you will need to specify which horizon you are talking about.
Yeah thanks a lot. I get it now.
 

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