Why Choose Computational Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the motivations for transitioning from theoretical or applied physics to computational physics, exploring the roles and responsibilities of computational physicists, and the relevance of a physics background in this field. Participants share their experiences and insights regarding the job market and the skills required in computational physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of a physics background for using computational/simulation programs, suggesting that with enough training, anyone could use them.
  • Another participant emphasizes that computational physicists typically write and modify simulation programs, requiring a deep understanding of both physics and computational methods.
  • A participant with six years of experience in computational physics describes the diverse nature of the field, highlighting the integration of computer science, high-performance computing, and theoretical modeling.
  • One participant notes that a PhD is often necessary for many roles in computational physics, particularly in device physics, while some positions may be available to those with a master's degree.
  • Another participant asserts that numerical modeling is essential for solving non-linear partial differential equations, indicating that a physics background is crucial for guiding programming efforts.
  • One participant suggests exploring recent publications in computational physics and provides links to resources for further information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the necessity of a physics background for computational physics. While some argue it is essential for understanding and guiding simulations, others suggest that the ability to use computational tools can be learned independently of a physics degree. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact role and importance of formal education in this field.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the job market and specific fields such as materials science and device physics, but do not provide detailed information on how these factors influence the decision to pursue computational physics. There are also references to specific resources for further exploration, but no consensus on the best path forward is reached.

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Hello,

I've been wondering lately why would one change study path from theoretical or applied physics to computational physics or become a simulation expert?
I am a physics graduate myself and based on the job market where I live I might need to pursue material sciences or computational physics. I am trying to figure out which path I prefer, but I don't feel like I understand what does a computational physicist do? Can't anyone use the computational/simulation programs with enough training? how would a background if physics be especially helpful for modeling and prediction?
 
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Presumably there is someone at your university doing this, otherwise it wouldn't be offered as an option. What did they say?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Presumably there is someone at your university doing this, otherwise it wouldn't be offered as an option. What did they say?
I have graduated and left the united states. I have not questioned this before, that's why I'm asking the community at PF.
 
Someone with a degree in computational physics would typically not just be using the simulation programs, but writing and/or modifying them. This requires a knowledge of the physics involved as well as a knowledge of how to do the required calculations in a computationally efficient manner.
 
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Arij said:
Hello,

I've been wondering lately why would one change study path from theoretical or applied physics to computational physics or become a simulation expert?
I am a physics graduate myself and based on the job market where I live I might need to pursue material sciences or computational physics. I am trying to figure out which path I prefer, but I don't feel like I understand what does a computational physicist do? Can't anyone use the computational/simulation programs with enough training? how would a background if physics be especially helpful for modeling and prediction?
Computational physicists and theorists are extremely closely related; the distinction between the two is often artificial, although real.

I have worked in computational physics for 6 years, working in molecular biology, materials science, and device physics. In some cases, much of what I did was just computer science, high performance computing, and data analysis. Statistical modeling was involved in the latter. In other cases, I have done theoretical modeling in tandem with simulations, writing codes and developing effective models from high dimensional simulation data.

One project hybridized the two. An ab initio model of a protein would be sampled on a distributed system, as the configuration space was so ludicrously sophisticated that months of simulation would be required to compute useful statistics. A theoretical model in collective variables was used to strategically guide the sampling of the high dimensional model across many cores, providing a performance boost in a "Bayesian" fashion. The sampling of the ab initio model refined the theoretical model in a variational fashion. I was a theorist (statistical mechanics/non-equilibrium statistical physics), software designer, simulation programmer, high performance computing specialist, and data scientist, all in one.

The field is honestly pretty diverse. A PhD is a necessity for much of the work, as one must thoroughly understand all of the theory underlying the codes, even canned, plug and play codes. Some work can be done by engineers with a masters, but in device physics for instance they pretty much exclusively hire PhD's.
 
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Arij said:
Hello,

I've been wondering lately why would one change study path from theoretical or applied physics to computational physics or become a simulation expert?
I am a physics graduate myself and based on the job market where I live I might need to pursue material sciences or computational physics. I am trying to figure out which path I prefer, but I don't feel like I understand what does a computational physicist do? Can't anyone use the computational/simulation programs with enough training? how would a background if physics be especially helpful for modeling and prediction?

In addition to the responses that you have received, I strongly suggest that you look the topics being published in computational physics. Starting at arXiv will be a good start:

https://arxiv.org/list/physics.comp-ph/recent

Edit: In addition to that, please have a look at the Computational Physics Division page within the APS. You should have plenty of information on what the people in this area do.

https://www.aps.org/units/dcomp/index.cfm

Zz.
 
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Numerical modeling in physics is the ONLY way to solve non-linear partial differential equations and obtain solutions that cannot be solved analytically. Your knowledge of physics is essential in guiding the programming.
 
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