Why combination and permutation is useless in physics

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The discussion centers around the relevance of combinations and permutations in mathematics to the field of physics. Participants explore whether these concepts are necessary for understanding physics, particularly in the context of undergraduate mathematics courses that typically emphasize algebra, complex numbers, and calculus over discrete mathematics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of studying combinations and permutations in physics, suggesting that their absence in undergraduate courses indicates they may be considered useless.
  • One participant references statistical mechanics and the Gibbs paradox as a context where permutations may be relevant.
  • Another participant argues that permutations are essential for understanding differential forms, which are utilized in physics.
  • A participant raises the possibility that the discussion may relate to a schoolwork or homework question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the usefulness of combinations and permutations in physics, with some asserting their irrelevance while others highlight specific applications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall necessity of these mathematical concepts in the field.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relevance of combinations and permutations, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of their applications in physics.

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discuss whether combination and permutation in math are useless in physics
the undergraduate math courses related to physics always contain algebra,complex number and calculus.

however we don't need to study discrete math /combination and permutation in those courses

that means those stuffs are useless in physics ?if so, why they are useless in physics?
 
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Stat mech and the Gibbs paradox.
 
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You need permutations for differential forms, which are used in physics.
 
tze liu said:
discuss whether combination and permutation in math are useless in physics
the undergraduate math courses related to physics always contain algebra,complex number and calculus.

however we don't need to study discrete math /combination and permutation in those courses

that means those stuffs are useless in physics ?if so, why they are useless in physics?
Is this for a schoolwork/homework question?
 

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