Why Do All Elements of a String Move Left in a Moving Reference Frame?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the motion of a string in different reference frames, particularly focusing on the behavior of wave pulses and their elements as described in a mechanical analysis related to wave speed on a string.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of changing reference frames on the motion of the string and the wave pulse, questioning why elements of the string appear to move left in one frame while the pulse is at rest.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify the relationship between the motion of the string and the pulse in different frames of reference. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of motion in each frame, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is a focus on the definitions of motion in different frames and the assumptions regarding the behavior of the string elements in relation to the wave pulse. The original poster expresses confusion about the expected motion in the moving reference frame.

Herricane
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I am trying to understand why v = (T/mu)^(1/2) Equation 16.18

EDIT: T is tension, mu is the mass divided by the length of the string, v is the speed of the wave on the string.

According to my book:

"Let us use a mechanical analysis to derive Equation 16.18. Consider a pulse mov-
ing on a taut string to the right with a uniform speed v measured relative to a sta-
tionary frame of reference as shown in Figure 16.11a (page 474). Instead of staying
in this reference frame, it is more convenient to choose a different inertial refer-
ence frame that moves along with the pulse with the same speed as the pulse so
that the pulse is at rest within the frame. This change of reference frame is permit-
ted because Newton’s laws are valid in either a stationary frame or one that moves
with constant velocity. In our new reference frame, shown in the magnified view
of Figure 16.11b, all elements of the string move to the left: a given element of the
string initially to the right of the pulse moves to the left, rises up and follows the
shape of the pulse, and then continues to move to the left. Both parts of Figure
16.11 show such an element at the instant it is located at the top of the pulse."

I don't understand why all elements of the string move to the left when the reference frame is moving at the same speed. I thought the motion would only be up and down.
 

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Could you rephrase your question? The string elements move to the left (and a little up and down) because we are moving to the right as fast as the wave.
 
Is the string or the pulse moving horizontally?
 
Herricane said:
Is the string or the pulse moving horizontally?

There are two frames of reference in your derivation. In the first frame the pulse moves and string elements move only up and down. In the second frame you move with the velocity of the wave, the wave appears motionless but the string elements move to the left and up and down. So to answer your question the string "moves" in the second frame and the pulse moves in the first frame.
 

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