Why Do My Calculations for Tension Differ from Expected Results?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving tension in wires supporting a mass. The original poster describes their calculations for the tensions T1 and T2, which differ from expected results, and outlines their approach using force resolution in the x and y directions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to resolve forces using trigonometric relationships and equations for equilibrium. They express confusion about their calculations leading to incorrect tension values and seek clarification on their approach. Other participants suggest that the formulas used are correct but indicate that an error must exist in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the original poster's calculations, with some providing insights into trigonometric identities that may simplify the problem. There is a recognition of a potential mistake in the calculations, but no consensus on the exact nature of the error has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's calculations are based on the assumption that the forces are in equilibrium, and they are working with specific angles related to the tension in the wires. The discussion includes references to the relationships between sine and cosine for complementary angles.

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This is irritating me so much, if you guys could help that would be great.
there is a mass hung from a celling. two wires connect to one wire which connects to the mass.
i have resolved the forces as follows :

Fx=0= -T1cos37 + T2cos53

Fy=0=T1sin37 + T2sin53 – T3

T3 = 125N as this is the force due to gravity on the mass.

The way i tried to work it out is by using Fx where T1=T2cos53/cos37
and then plugging this into Fy to get 125 = T2cos53sin37/cos37 + T2sin53

I then factor out T2 and divide 125 by the result of all the cosines and sines

how ever i get T1=65N and T2=71N when the actual answers are T1=75.1N, T2=99.9N

what am i doing wrong this is simple algebra surely!
 
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Everything is correct, you made a mistake somewhere during calculations, but I can not find it out.

To make the calculation simple, notice that 53+37=90, so cos(53)=sin(37) and sin(53)=cos(37), so you have ((sin^2(37)/cos(37)+cos(37))T2=125, that is T2/cos(37)=125.

ehild
 
Yes, something wrong with your evaluation. Formulas look right and give the right answer.
 
I just don't understand where i have gone wrong though. i still don't understand how to get from the resolved Fx Fy equations to the actual tensions.

Cheers for the cosx=siny if x + y = 90 info Ehlid !
 
ehild said:
Everything is correct, you made a mistake somewhere during calculations, but I can not find it out.

To make the calculation simple, notice that 53+37=90, so cos(53)=sin(37) and sin(53)=cos(37), so you have ((sin^2(37)/cos(37)+cos(37))T2=125, that is T2/cos(37)=125.

ehild

So, T2 = 125*cos(37) = 99.8. Similarly, find T1.
 
loba333 said:
I just don't understand where i have gone wrong though. i still don't understand how to get from the resolved Fx Fy equations to the actual tensions.

Show your evaluation.

ehild
 

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