Why Do Professors Insist on Waiving Rights to See Recommendation Letters?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the practice of waiving the right to see recommendation letters in the context of applying to math PhD programs. Participants explore the reasons behind this requirement from the perspective of professors and the implications for students.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that professors may require the waiver to ensure that the recommendation reflects their genuine opinion, as it prevents students from altering the content after it is written.
  • It is noted that many professors will decline to write a recommendation if they cannot provide a positive endorsement, which may not necessarily indicate a poor recommendation.
  • One participant mentions that the waiver helps protect professors from potential backlash from students who may misinterpret the strength of their recommendation based on grades alone.
  • Concerns are raised about students not fully understanding what constitutes a strong recommendation, which could lead to misunderstandings or dissatisfaction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the motivations behind the waiver requirement, with some agreeing on its protective nature for professors while others speculate on the implications for students. No consensus is reached regarding the necessity or impact of the waiver.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the reasons for waiving the right may vary by institution and individual professor, and there are assumptions about the relationship dynamics between students and professors that are not fully explored.

SiddharthM
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I wanted to post this question because I know a lot of the posters here are professors themselves. So I'm applying to math phd programs and I've been asking profs to write me rec's.

My question is why professors insist that I waive my right to see the recommendations. I asked them if they would write me good rec's and they said they would, and assuming i do not waive my right i can only see the letter if i get into a particular institution. I'm not worried about the actual waiving of this right, i did it without being asked, what I'm worried about is why some prof's want confirmation that I waived this right - is it because they aren't writing good rec's? I'm probably being paranoid but I'd like to have a professor's perspective.

Please advise.
 
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SiddharthM said:
what I'm worried about is why some prof's want confirmation that I waived this right - is it because they aren't writing good rec's?
I'm not a professor, but I know of a few reasons that have nothing to do with bad recs. Most of the profs I know will tell a student "no" or "I'm going to give you a terrible rec" before writing one.

a) Most schools require it. Seriously, professors have to seal and sign on the envelope and everything.
b) The reason it's so important to waive the right to see it is because it also means you haven't touched it after the professor wrote it, which means the rec is the professors actual words.
c) If you can't see it, it's a bit harder to bribe the professor to write you a good rec. Professors don't want to risk their reputation on something like a rec.
 
Only a very few psychopath professors actually write bad recommendations. Most will simply turn down a request if they cannot muster any enthusiasm for a student.

But I imagine that it is a common situation where the professor's enthusiasm isn't as high as the student's. I suspect much of the purpose of the waiver is to spare professors from having to explain to irate students why getting an A in a course isn't quite the same as parting the Red Sea.
 
TMFKAN64 said:
But I imagine that it is a common situation where the professor's enthusiasm isn't as high as the student's. I suspect much of the purpose of the waiver is to spare professors from having to explain to irate students why getting an A in a course isn't quite the same as parting the Red Sea.

And even when the prof's enthusiasm is as high, most students don't quite know what's supposed to go into a rec, so they can get irate about the strangest things. I have to write session reports for my job and I've long since learned that writing anything down in the students line of sight can freak some students out.
 

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