Why do some atheists choose not to kill creatures?

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The discussion explores the motivations behind why some atheists choose not to kill creatures, examining the emotional, ethical, and philosophical dimensions of this behavior. Participants reflect on personal experiences and societal influences, as well as the implications of atheism on feelings toward animals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why, as an atheist, they feel discomfort in killing creatures, suggesting a disconnect between belief and emotional response.
  • Another proposes that the desire to avoid killing may stem from a self-preservation instinct, considering how one would feel if the roles were reversed.
  • A participant shares their background in hunting and fishing, emphasizing a respectful approach to killing for food, which they believe is guided by ethics rather than faith.
  • Some participants argue that feelings of revulsion towards killing are physiological responses rather than rooted in religious beliefs, suggesting that these emotions are common among humans regardless of their belief systems.
  • One participant, identifying as an atheist and vegetarian, posits that compassion for animals may be an evolutionary trait essential for societal survival, extending empathy beyond humans to include other creatures.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that feelings about killing are tied to atheism, asserting that having feelings does not necessitate a religious framework.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationship between atheism and feelings towards killing creatures. There is no consensus on whether atheism influences these feelings, with some arguing it does not, while others suggest emotional responses are universal among humans.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of emotions related to killing, with participants acknowledging that individual experiences and societal conditioning play significant roles. There are unresolved questions regarding the nature of these feelings and their connection to belief systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the intersections of ethics, atheism, and animal rights, as well as those examining the psychological aspects of human-animal interactions.

  • #61
DaveC426913 said:
Yes. I am trying to figure out this ethical code.

I don't think there is one, in the absolute or objective sense. First one must decide, rather irrationally, what it is that one values, then proceed logically from there. The unfortunate part is, that since the original premise is irrational, any use of logic, thereafter, is likely to lead to unsatisfying contradictions.

Its at this point that an ethical person makes exceptions. The world is chaos, trying to enforce an ethical framework on it, any ethical framework, is like trying to saddle a moving horse.

The ancient greeks dealt with this by talking about virtue, its not the details that count, but rather that one deals bravely and honestly with the world. They also believed in fate though, which means no matter what you do, the result is the same. Lots of absurdities in life.
 
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  • #62
Well, I definitely have no trouble squishing ants. They are invasive.

And centipedes. Even though they're beneficial in that they eat other critters, they are just too totally yiggy.
 
  • #63
I'm not sure if it'll help any, but this is a brief insight into my philosophy:

I find projecting human feelings and emotions onto creatures a bit silly, but at the same time I cannot bear to see any organism suffer that is capable of suffering. I will go out of my way to avoid causing said suffering or to put a swift end to any I see.

I know that most creatures in some way can experience--probably in a very different way than I do, but the ability is there nonetheless. I feel that if I am entitled to enjoy what experiences I can while I am here, then so should they. Even if they lack the capability to enjoy or even have those experiences in some way, most certainly can feel pain and fear, and that alone is cause enough for me to do my best not to inflict either upon them. The universe is harsh and unforgiving enough. I see no reason to make it more so.

I guess my reasons can be boiled down on some level to hardwired empathy and aversion to inequality.
 
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