Why do we need to know the value of 'g' to such accuracy?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of the precise value of gravitational acceleration, denoted as 'g', which is defined as 9.80665 m/s². Participants explore its necessity for various applications, the variability of 'g' in different locations, and the historical context of its definition.

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  • One participant questions the necessity of knowing 'g' to such precision, wondering about its applications and expressing uncertainty about its importance.
  • Another participant illustrates the calculation of weight using different values of 'g', emphasizing that more accurate values lead to more precise calculations of weight and fall time.
  • A participant clarifies that the value of 'g' is not universally constant, noting that it varies with latitude, altitude, and local geological conditions, providing specific examples from different locations.
  • One participant mentions the relevance of 'g' in US customary units and its application in defining pound force and kilogram-force, which are based on the acceleration due to gravity.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of accurately measuring 'g' in gravity surveys for mineral exploration, as small anomalies can indicate density variations.
  • A later reply discusses the inversion of ocean floor bathymetry from gravity surveys, suggesting a connection to the accuracy of 'g' measurements.
  • One participant inquires about the origin of the defined value of 'g', expressing curiosity about its measurement and the conditions under which it applies.
  • A participant provides historical context, explaining that the defined value of 'g' is a nominal midrange value based on specific conditions at sea level and latitude.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the necessity and applications of the precise value of 'g'. There is no consensus on its importance, and multiple competing perspectives on its variability and applications remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the value of 'g' can vary significantly based on geographic and environmental factors, which introduces uncertainty in its application across different contexts.

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I was looking through a textbook, and read that the value of g was determined to be exactly 9.80665 ms-2.
I just started wondering why do we need to know it to that accuracy? Was it necessary for certain experiments? Or did people just want to know?

Then I started to think about why we might need to know the value of g, and I was quite surprised when I couldn't really think of anything. What are the applications of knowing the value of g?
My first thought was that of rockets etc. but then as their altitude increases, g will vary, so knowing the value at ground/sea level will not be the whole story.

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Let a block of mass 1kg,be at 1m from sea level,And assume that g is ##10m/s^2##
Weight of the block is found as ##weight=mass*g##
So,Weight=10N,
If the value of g is given as 9.8,Weight is 9.8N
If it is 9.80665,Weight is calculated as 9.80665.
g is also necessary for calculating the time taken for the fall,Distance traveled etc...
So the more accurate the value of g,the more accurate the calculation.
 
Jon.G said:
I was looking through a textbook, and read that the value of g was determined to be exactly 9.80665 ms-2.
The value of g has not been determined to be exactly 9.80665 m/s2.

That is the defined value.

There is no one value for g that applies worldwide. The value varies with latitude, altitude, and the makeup of the stuff underfoot. The acceleration due to gravity in Mexico City is 9.776 m/s2. In Oslo, Norway it's about half a percent higher, 9.825 m/s2.
 
Jon.G said:
Then I started to think about why we might need to know the value of g, and I was quite surprised when I couldn't really think of anything.
One use is in US customary units. We have a pound mass and a pound force. The pound force is exactly that needed to make an object with a mass of one pound accelerate at 9.80665 m/s2.

Another use is in a metric unit that is deprecated but nonetheless is widely used in some engineering domains. The same factors that drive some engineers in the US to use pounds mass and pounds force drive their non-US counterparts to use the kilogram and kilogram-force. The kilogram-force is exactly that needed to make a one kilogram object accelerate at 9.80665 m/s2.
 
Gravity surveys especially in mineral exploration requires g to me measured accurately in order to detect the small gravity anomalies caused by density variations.
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Even more amazing, most of the 'known' bathymetry of the ocean floors is inverted from gravity surveys.
 
Does anyone know how that number was decided, since it wouldn't be measured to be
9.80665 m/s2 almost anywhere on Earth? If it is the result of a measurement, I want to go there so I'll know how fast I would fall.
 
Well, according to Wikipedia:

Standard gravity, or standard acceleration due to free fall, usually denoted by ɡ0 or ɡn, is the nominal gravitational acceleration of an object in a vacuum near the surface of the Earth. It is defined by standard as exactly 9.80665 m/s2, or about 35.30394 (km/h)/s (≈32.174 ft/s2 or ≈21.937 mph/s). This value was established by the 3rd CGPM (1901, CR 70) and used to define the standard weight of an object as the product of its mass and this nominal acceleration...

The value of ɡ0 defined above is a nominal midrange value on Earth, originally based on the acceleration of a body in free fall at sea level at a geodetic latitude of 45°.
 

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