Why do we only see one side of the moon?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of why only one side of the Moon is visible from Earth. Participants explore concepts related to the Moon's rotation, its gravitational relationship with Earth, and the implications of tidal locking. The conversation includes theoretical explanations and challenges, as well as some tangential questions about planetary motion and gravitational dynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify that the Moon does not rotate at the same speed as the Earth, but rather it is tidally locked, meaning its rotation period matches its orbital period around Earth.
  • One participant uses a visual analogy involving coins to explain how the Moon's rotation and orbit are synchronized.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that the Moon does not rotate at all, suggesting that it follows a "straight path" around Earth according to General Relativity.
  • There is a discussion about the Moon moving away from Earth at a rate of approximately an inch per year, and how this relates to the slowing of Earth's rotation.
  • Questions arise regarding why planets in the Sun's orbit do not drift towards it, with some participants suggesting that gravitational pull is balanced by tangential velocity.
  • One participant introduces the concept of the Plasma model, questioning the Newtonian interpretation of gravity and suggesting alternative explanations for orbital regularity.
  • A participant proposes a test to determine if an object in Earth's orbit would fall towards the Sun if its tangential motion were canceled.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the Moon's rotation and its gravitational interactions. While some explanations are accepted by multiple participants, there remains no consensus on certain aspects, particularly regarding the implications of gravitational models and the nature of orbits.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding gravitational models and the implications of tidal locking. The discussion also touches on the validity of different interpretations of gravitational dynamics, particularly in relation to the Plasma model.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in astronomy, gravitational physics, and the dynamics of celestial bodies may find this discussion relevant, particularly those exploring the complexities of orbital mechanics and tidal interactions.

  • #61
Originally posted by chroot
You're an idiot.

- Warren

Chroot you're smart enough to put down some physics noobs in a forum? Lol! :) Does that really reward you? Isn't it like a 25-year old beating up little kids and feeling strong about it?

And you have to understand; I just _had_ to find a quote from you that I think applies here. I knew of course I would eventually find some stupid remark, just not that I would find it so fast!

"I therefore refrain from making comments about how surgeons think. It is offensive that you seem to think you know how I think. It just makes you look stupid."

Pwnd!
 
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  • #62
Now subtillioN has fallen head-over-heels into the bottomless chasm of ineptitude known as 'numerology.'

Once we begin discussing Bode's Law (which isn't even accurate anyway, and is of no use to anyone except schoolchildren) and how it relates to electron-cloud probability densities, we have moved from science to pseudoscience.

I, for one, vote that moderators take action and remove this inane thread from the Astronomy & Cosmology forum.

- Warren
 
  • #63
Maybe if i elaborate, people who actually know something, like Chroot, might choose to retort in a more constructive way.

Anyway, I looked at it from this way.

If a geodesic can be considered to be a straight line, because of curved space, then a moon following that geodesic can be considered to follow a straight path around the Earth. If it can be considered so, then could not it not be considered that the moon - facing the same side towards Earth - have no angular momentum, in respect to the straight line, the geodesic.. ?
 
  • #64
Originally posted by chroot
I, for one, vote that moderators take action and remove this inane thread from the Astronomy & Cosmology forum.

Hang on...let me flip a coin on this one...
 
  • #65
Originally posted by chroot
Once we begin discussing Bode's Law (which isn't even accurate anyway, and is of no use to anyone except schoolchildren) and how it relates to electron-cloud probability densities, we have moved from science to pseudoscience.

The harmony of the Universe is pure magic to those who do not know its mechanisms!
 
  • #66
now what was the original question?
I seem to have forgetten it amid the tangents, hijacks, and nonsense.
 

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