Why does electrostatic force move water but not magnetism?

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The discussion clarifies why electrostatic forces can influence water while magnetic forces cannot. A plastic shopping bag generates an electrostatic force that interacts with water due to the water molecules' significant electric dipole moment. In contrast, water's slight diamagnetism results in minimal interaction with magnetic fields, as the magnetic dipole moment of water is too small to produce noticeable effects. The key takeaway is that the strength of the electric dipole moment in water allows for observable electrostatic interactions, unlike the weaker magnetic interactions.

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  • Understanding of electrostatic forces and their effects on polar molecules
  • Basic knowledge of water's atomic structure and intermolecular forces
  • Familiarity with magnetic fields and magnetic moments
  • Concept of electric dipole moments and their significance in molecular interactions
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  • Research the properties of water, focusing on its electric dipole moment and intermolecular forces
  • Explore the concept of diamagnetism and its implications for different materials
  • Learn about the relationship between electric fields and polar molecules
  • Investigate the differences between electric and magnetic forces in various contexts
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So I was surprised to notice that my plastic shopping bag was able to actually push and pull tap water significantly far with its electrostatic force. But when I put a magnet near the water nothing happened. What makes the electrostatic force so different from magnetic force; isn't it just two kinds of the same force (electromagnetic force)?

I know the basics about the properties of water (atomic structure, polarity, intermolecular forces [such as hydrogen bonding] that cause adhesiveness and cohesiveness in the water, etc) and electrostatic force (and electromagnetic force which is perpendicular to moving charges).

None of my basic knowledge even comes close to explain what pushes and pulls the water and why that doesn't happen with magnetism.
 
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Water is slightly diamagnetic, meaning it is repelled by a magnetic field.
 
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In short the magnetic field of the magnet is not big enough to produce any noticeable effect. This is because the water molecules have a small magnetic dipole moment therefore they need a big magnetic field to affect em. On the other hand the water molecules have not so small electric dipole moment so a moderate electrostatic field can have small but noticeable effect on them.

The electric dipole moment is a measure of the separation of positive and negative electrical charges in a system of electric charges, that is, a measure of the charge system's overall polarity

The magnetic moment of a magnet is a quantity that determines the torque it will experience in an external magnetic field. A loop of electric current, a bar magnet, an electron(revolving around nucleus), a molecule, and a planet all have magnetic moments.
 
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Thanks everyone, it makes sense now.
 
student34 said:
why that doesn't happen with magnetism.

Watch at 0:57

 
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