Why Does My Solution to the Radical Equation Differ from the Answer Key?

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The discussion centers around a radical equation involving a square root and a variable, where the original poster expresses confusion regarding their solution compared to an answer key. The problem involves the equation \(\sqrt{-12 - 3x} = 3\) and the implications of squaring both sides.

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  • Participants explore the implications of squaring a negative number and the definition of square roots in the context of real and complex numbers. There is a discussion about the original equation and the steps taken to solve it, with some participants questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's approach.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts related to squaring negative numbers and the nature of square roots. Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions and implications of the operations involved, while others express confusion and seek further understanding.

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Participants are navigating the distinction between real and complex numbers, particularly in relation to the square root of negative values. The original poster's equation setup and notation have also been questioned, indicating potential misunderstandings in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


(Square root)-12 -3x - 3 = 0
Everything underline is supposed to be under the square root sign.

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The Attempt at a Solution


(Square root3x +12)2 = (3)2
3x + 12 = 9
-12 -12
3x = -3
x = -1
Solution in this learning guide says the answer is -7. So I'm just wondering where I went wrong.
If anyone knows how to make a square root symbol, please let me know.
 
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Schaus said:

Homework Statement


(Square root)-12 -3x - 3 = 0
Everything underline is supposed to be under the square root sign.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


(Square root3x +12)2 = (3)2
No. Your equation is ##\sqrt{-12 - 3x} = 3##
If you square the left side, you get -12 - 3x, not 12 + 3x.
Schaus said:
3x + 12 = 9
-12 -12
3x = -3
x = -1
Solution in this learning guide says the answer is -7. So I'm just wondering where I went wrong.
If anyone knows how to make a square root symbol, please let me know.
I get x = -7 as well.
 
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BTW, I changed your thread title from "Solving Ration Equations" to "Solving Radical Equations."
Yours is not a rational equation, which would involve a quotient of two polynomials.
 
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I thought you couldn't square a negative number?
 
there is no square root of a negative number, no even nth root of any negative number
Schaus said:
I thought you couldn't square a negative number?
there are odd nth roots of negative numbers...

eg square root of -1 is not a real number, but cube root of -1 is -1.
 
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So as long as there are undefined units then you can square it?
 
Sorry If I am confusing, all variables like X Y evaluate to a number, the squaring of a negative number is positive.

The square root or even nth root of a negative number is not defined in terms of a real number.

You can square a negative number to get a positive.

-1 *-1 = 1.

sQAURE ROOT =/= squaring.
 
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Ohhh, duh. Sorry! I understand now.
 
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Schaus said:
I thought you couldn't square a negative number?

Of course you can square a negative number. That is why an equation like ##x^2 = 9## has two solutions: ##x = 3## and ##x = -3##. Both give 9 when you square them.

Perhaps you meant that you cannot take the square root of a negative number (in the real number system). But in the complex number field we can very nicely take the square root of a negative number, to get a so-called imaginary number. (It might surprise you to know that such things are used all the time by physicists and electrical engineers, among others.)
 

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