Why Does Pi Equal 180 Degrees and 2 Pi Equal 360 Degrees?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the mathematical constant pi and angular measurements in degrees and radians. Participants explore the definitions of pi, radians, and degrees, and how they relate to the measurement of angles and the circumference of circles. The scope includes conceptual clarifications, mathematical reasoning, and some exploratory discussions about the definitions and implications of these terms.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that pi is defined as the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, while others challenge the notion that pi equals 180 degrees.
  • A participant explains that one radian corresponds to an arc length equal to the radius of a circle, leading to the conclusion that pi radians equals 180 degrees.
  • There is a discussion about whether degrees or radians should be considered the constant in angle measurement, with differing opinions on the matter.
  • Some participants argue that radians are more useful in certain contexts than degrees, but there is no consensus on which unit is superior overall.
  • A participant mentions that pi appears in the integration method used to find the circumference of a circle, while others question how pi can be avoided in such calculations.
  • There are repeated requests for examples of integration methods that demonstrate the appearance of pi, with some participants expressing frustration over the lack of clarity in previous responses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between pi, radians, and degrees, with no clear consensus reached. Some agree on the definitions and relationships, while others contest the interpretations and implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining constants and units, noting that the term "constant" may not apply to units like degrees and radians. There are also discussions about the limitations of approximations for pi and the implications for practical applications.

  • #31
middleCmusic said:
I think your method is fair, as it doesn't use the numerical expression for pi - rather it just uses relationships between [the ratio of a circle's circumference and diameter] and right triangles. (The former of which happens to be pi).

If OP wants a numerical expression for pi - one that generates it - perhaps an infinite series is what OP wants (although I feel from the responses that OP may be missing some of the prerequisite material, but perhaps it's just a language barrier).

How about something like this:

\pi = 4(1 - \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{5} - \frac{1}{7} + \frac{1}{9})

I don't know the derivation though unfortunately.

Perhaps you meant this: \pi = 4(1 - \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{5} - \frac{1}{7} + \frac{1}{9} - ...)

That ellipsis ('...') is all important.

Alternatively, you could've stated: \pi \approx 4(1 - \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{5} - \frac{1}{7} + \frac{1}{9}), but the approximation is really quite mediocre with so few terms.
 
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  • #32
Curious3141 said:
Perhaps you meant this: \pi = 4(1 - \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{5} - \frac{1}{7} + \frac{1}{9} - ...)

That ellipsis ('...') is all important.

Alternatively, you could've stated: \pi \approx 4(1 - \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{5} - \frac{1}{7} + \frac{1}{9}), but the approximation is really quite mediocre with so few terms.

Oops! What an embarrassing mistake on my part. Fixed my post.
 
  • #33
We have asked the OP repeatedly to clarify his ideas. He never clearly answered. And now he seems to be gone from this thread. Time to lock.
 

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