MHB Why does the equation of the level surface not have ln?

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The discussion centers on finding the equation of a level surface for the function g(x,y,z)=ln(x^2−y+z^2) at the point (−1,2,1). The user initially encounters an undefined value when substituting the point into the function, leading to confusion. It is clarified that the level surface can be expressed without the logarithm by setting x^2−y+z^2=0. This transformation is valid as the limit of ln approaches negative infinity, resulting in the equation of the surface. The key takeaway is that the logarithmic function's undefined nature at that point leads directly to the equation of the level surface.
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Could someone please help me with the following question:

Consider the function g(x,y,z)=ln(x^2−y+z^2). Find an equation of the level surface of the function through the point (−1,2,1) which does not have ln. First find g(−1,2,1).

When I sub in the points I get:
g(−1,2,1)=ln(1−2+1)=ln(0)=undefined.

Where am I going wrong?

Thanks, bbelson01
 
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bbelson01 said:
Could someone please help me with the following question:

Consider the function g(x,y,z)=ln(x^2−y+z^2). Find an equation of the level surface of the function through the point (−1,2,1) which does not have ln. First find g(−1,2,1).

When I sub in the points I get:
g(−1,2,1)=ln(1−2+1)=ln(0)=undefined.

Where am I going wrong?

Thanks, bbelson01

Hi bbelson01! Welcome to MHB! :)

I don't thank that you've gone wrong.
You've found the level, which is "undefined".
To get other points, you need that:
$$x^2−y+z^2 = 0$$
Hey! That is an equation that does not have $\ln$.
That piece of information actually seems to be a hint.
 
Thanks for replying Selena.

Could you please step me through how you go from ln(x^2−y+z^2) to x^2−y+z^2=0? How can you just eliminate ln?

Thanks,
bbelson01
 
bbelson01 said:
Thanks for replying Selena.

Could you please step me through how you go from ln(x^2−y+z^2) to x^2−y+z^2=0? How can you just eliminate ln?

Thanks,
bbelson01

Let's take a look at our surface. It's:
$$g(x,y,z)=c \quad\Rightarrow\quad \ln(x^2−y+z^2)=c \quad\Rightarrow\quad x^2−y+z^2=e^c$$

To get to the surface that contains $(−1,2,1)$ we need to let $c$ approach $-\infty$.
We reach that surface in the limit for $c \to -\infty$.
If we do, we're left with:
$$x^2−y+z^2=0$$