Why Does the Trigonometric Function in the FEM Calculation Differ?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the electromotive force (EMF) induced in a coil rotating inside a solenoid. The original poster (OP) presents equations involving magnetic flux and its time derivative, leading to a discrepancy in the trigonometric function used in the calculations.

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  • The OP attempts to derive the induced EMF using magnetic flux equations but questions the correctness of their result compared to another provided answer. Some participants seek clarification on the definition of terms and the setup of the problem, particularly the axis of symmetry for the solenoid.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the definitions and assumptions related to the variables involved. There is no explicit consensus yet, as differing interpretations of the angle variable and its impact on the results are being examined.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the solenoid's symmetry axis, which is critical for the problem. Additionally, some participants express uncertainty about the term "FEM," suggesting it may refer to EMF, indicating potential language barriers in understanding the terminology.

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I need to find the FEM induced in a coil that rotates around the y-axis and is inside a solenoid. The coil starts in the plane yz
##r## is the radius of the coil
##n## is the number of spiral by length of the solenoid.
##N## is the number of turns of the coil
##w## is the angular velocity that the coils rotate.
##I## is the current passing through the solenoid

I just thought this:
$$\phi = \langle B,A \rangle = \mu n I \pi r^2 N cos(\theta = wt)$$
$$ \epsilon = -\dot \phi = \mu n I \pi r^2 N w sin(\theta = wt)$$

This is a simple exercise. But i can't see why my answer is wrong. That is, the answer provided by the list is ## \mu n I \pi r^2 N w cos(\theta = wt)##. The trignometric function is different. My answer says that at t=0 the induced FEM is zero, the other says it is maximum.
 
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Sorry, what's FEM?
 
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Which axis is given as the solenoid’s symmetry axis? This is a vital piece of information. This is why you are asked to provide the homework statement verbatim, which you have ignored.
berkeman said:
Sorry, what's FEM?
Based on context, I would assume the OP is not a native English speaker and the original language is a Latin language. FEM would really be EMF, electromotive force.
 
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Herculi said:
My answer says that at t=0 the induced FEM is zero, the other says it is maximum.
Is your definition of variable ##\theta## the same as the definition in the "other"? If yours differs by 90o from the "other", then that could be the source of the disagreement.
 
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