Why does this integral go to zero?

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of an integral involving creation operators in quantum field theory, specifically questioning why the integral goes to zero. Participants explore the properties of the integrand, particularly focusing on the oddness of the integrand and the implications of the creation operators' characteristics.

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  • One participant questions why the integral goes to zero, referencing the creation operator and the structure of the integrand.
  • Another participant suggests that the integrand is odd, which leads to the conclusion that the integral evaluates to zero.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the properties of the creation operators, asking why they must be odd or even functions and how this relates to the integral's behavior.
  • There is a discussion about the presence of a factor of k in the integrand and its implications for the integral's evaluation.
  • Some participants clarify that the integral is over a three-dimensional vector space, which influences the interpretation of the j-th component in the context of the integral.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the necessity of the creation operators being even or odd for the integral to be zero, questioning the constraints imposed on these functions.
  • Another participant reiterates that the integral is zero due to the oddness of the integrand, referencing the combination of the creation operators and the factor of k.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the integral is odd and thus evaluates to zero, but there is disagreement and uncertainty regarding the properties of the creation operators and their implications for the integral's behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in understanding the properties of the creation operators and their role in determining the integrand's characteristics. There are unresolved questions about the nature of these operators and how they affect the integral's outcome.

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Why does this integral go to zero? Where alpha+ is a creation operator?

[tex]\int \frac{d^3k}{w_k} k^j \left(\alpha^+ (\underline{k}) \alpha^+ (-\underline{k})e^{2iw_k x^0}\right)[/tex]
 
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odd integrand
 
ansgar said:
odd integrand

Sorry - stupid question, why is it an odd integrand? If it is an odd integrand, alpha(+k) and alpha(-k) are either odd and even (or even and odd) or both odd. An odd function has the property that f(-x)=-f(x) and an even function has the property that f(-x)=f(x) - why must the creation operators have these properties? As I understand it, they are just coefficients of the general expansion of the field, so they should be totally arbitrary..
 
as far as I see, there is a k in front of the parenthesis..
 
ansgar said:
as far as I see, there is a k in front of the parenthesis..

yes but that k is just a constant. We are integrating wrt vector k, I think.

EDIT: In anycase, if the k was a variable in the integration, why would this make the integral zero? (sorry if this is a stupid question)..
 
why isn't it the j-th component? j = 1,2,3

d^3k = dk1 dk2 dk3

so the integral is a 3-vector relation.

where did you find this expression?
 
ansgar said:
why isn't it the j-th component? j = 1,2,3

d^3k = dk1 dk2 dk3

so the integral is a 3-vector relation.

where did you find this expression?

Oh okay, that makes sense.

The original question itself is this:

find

[tex]\int d^3.\underline{x}T^{0j}(x)[/tex]

in terms of creation and annihilation operators.

Basically, when I expand it out (very long), I get two integrals like the one in the OP - which should go to zero according to the solutions I've been given... I just don't understand why.
 
well the integral you posted first is odd, so it is zero

and from

[tex] \int d^3.\underline{x}T^{0j}(x)[/tex]

you that it is a j0 tensor which is what you have posted in your post. i.e it SHOULD depend on the j-th coordinate
 
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Yes it should depend on the jth coordinate.

Sorry I'm sure this is a really stupid question, but would I be right in saying that the alpha functions must both be even (or one even one odd, or both odd), for the integral to be zero (as evenxevenxodd=odd (the standalone k is odd).

Why must this be the case? The alpha functions are Fourier coefficients of a general field, why can we impose such a constraint to these functions?
 
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you see that the integral is zero since it is odd due to the k^j factor

Also you have a(-x)a(x) which is even under x -> -x

so it doesen't matter if a(x) is odd or even under x-> -x, since they come in this combination.
 

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