Why Doesn't an Object Submerged in Water Always Sink?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of buoyancy and the behavior of objects submerged in water. Participants are exploring why objects do not always sink when submerged, particularly focusing on the relationship between weight and buoyant force.

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  • Participants are questioning the conditions under which an object remains submerged without accelerating downward, particularly the roles of buoyant force and weight. There are attempts to clarify the concept of apparent weight in water and its implications for motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and raising questions about the forces acting on submerged objects. Some have offered clarifications regarding the balance of forces and the conditions for neutral buoyancy, while others express confusion about specific scenarios.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding buoyant force and weight, particularly in cases where objects are entirely submerged versus partially submerged. Participants are also considering the effects of external forces that may influence the object's motion.

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Can someone please help me understand this conceptually? If there is an object completely submerged in say water and if there is an apparent weight I don't understand why that object wouldn't accelerate downward. In the air an object can reach terminal velocity and move an constant velocity but I don't understand how the object in water can just stay still. Does that make sense? Thanks.
 
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In air, an object can also stand still. Balloons do. Same principle.
 
In a few of my questions they talk about apparent weight in water (when the object is completely submerged) where the buoyant force is smaller than the weight of the object, my question is why doesn't the object accelerate downward in the water. I understand that when the object is partially submerged the weight equals the buoyant force so the net force is zero and the object has no acceleration. But i get confused when it is entirely submerged. If someone could explain to me what I'm missing here I would appreciate it.
 
Bengo said:
In a few of my questions they talk about apparent weight in water (when the object is completely submerged) where the buoyant force is smaller than the weight of the object, my question is why doesn't the object accelerate downward in the water. I understand that when the object is partially submerged the weight equals the buoyant force so the net force is zero and the object has no acceleration. But i get confused when it is entirely submerged. If someone could explain to me what I'm missing here I would appreciate it.
I don't think you're missing anything. If the buoyant force is smaller than the weight, and those are the only forces acting, then the object will accelerate downward. But often the object is suspended (by a rope, say) or held up in some manner, so other forces act.
 
Bengo said:
But i get confused when it is entirely submerged.

Just the fact that an object is submerged does not mean that its buoyant force is smaller than its weight. It could have been made submerged by some other force that has since been removed. The motion will depend on the CURRENT forces.
 
Submarines are good at staying completely submerged without accelerating downward.

In all floating bodies, including some submerged ones, the weight (W) of the body is balanced by the buoyant force (B). Since Sum F = B - W = 0 = ma, then the body undergoes no motion in the vertical direction.

If, on the other hand, the body is not floating, this implies that the weight is greater than the buoyancy. In this case,
Sum F = B-W = ma, but Sum F < 0,
and the body will sink, accelerating until it reaches some terminal velocity (provided the water is deep enough to permit this).
 
Thank you so much everyone. So is it correct to say the only way an object will stay submerged in a liquid and not sink to the bottom is if it has the same density as the liquid?
 
Even in this case it might sink - if its initial velocity is downward. If the velocity has no vertical component, then it will stay at some constant depth.
 
Bengo said:
So is it correct to say the only way an object will stay submerged in a liquid and not sink to the bottom is if it has the same density as the liquid?
Yes. See: Neutral buoyancy
 

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