Why is AB an Orthogonal Projection Matrix?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of orthogonal projection matrices, specifically questioning why a given matrix product AB is not considered an orthogonal projection onto the x-axis. Participants explore the definitions and interpretations of orthogonal projections in the context of linear algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the matrix product AB does not provide the orthogonal projection onto the x-axis and questions the correctness of their matrix multiplication.
  • Another participant clarifies that the orthogonal projection onto the x-axis should map the point (x,y) to (x,0), suggesting that the original interpretation may have been incorrect.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the terminology, asking why the term "orthogonal projection" is used instead of simply "projection to the x-axis," indicating a need for clarification on definitions.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the definition of a projection, emphasizing that it should yield the same result when applied multiple times, and distinguishing between orthogonal projections and other types of projections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the term "orthogonal projection" and its application in this context. Multiple viewpoints regarding the definitions and implications of projections remain present.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the definitions of orthogonal projections and how they relate to the specific example provided. Participants reference potential definitions from text materials without confirming a shared understanding.

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I've attached the question to this post. The answer is false but why is it not considered the orthogonal projection?

##
A = \begin{bmatrix}
0 & 1 \\
0 & 0
\end{bmatrix}
##
##
B = \begin{bmatrix}
x \\
y
\end{bmatrix}
##
##
AB = \begin{bmatrix}
y \\
0
\end{bmatrix}
##

Is AB not providing the orthogonal projection? Is my matrix multiplication incorrect?
 

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The question was about orthogonal projection "onto the x-axis", so (x,y) should project to (x,0).
 
Stephen Tashi said:
The question was about orthogonal projection "onto the x-axis", so (x,y) should project to (x,0).

I was interpreting it as the projection of the orthogonal component (i.e. y) to the x-axis. I understand what you're saying, thank you for the clarification, but why exactly is it called the orthogonal projection then? Why not simply the projection to the x-axis?
 
MathewsMD said:
why exactly is it called the orthogonal projection then? Why not simply the projection to the x-axis?

A "projection" is defined to be a transformation that produces the same answer when applied twice as when applied once. For example, we can define a projection process on (x,y) to be drawing a line through (x,y) that makes a 120 degree angle with the x-axis and mapping (x,y) to the point of intersection between that line and the x-axis. Applying the process twice means applying it to the point (x,y) and then to the point where (x,y) was mapped.

In an "orthogonal projection onto the x-axis, " the direction of the line we draw would be perpendicular to the x-axis. Do your text materials give a precise definition for "orthogonal projection"? Perhaps they define it in terms of an inner product.

(Don't confuse "orthogonal projections" with "orthogonal matrices", which is another topic you will encounter in linear algebra.)
 

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