Why Is Carbon Listed as 12.0107 g/Mole?

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The discussion revolves around the atomic weight of carbon, specifically why it is listed as 12.0107 g/mole rather than a simple 12 g/mole. Participants explore the implications of isotopic composition and definitions related to atomic mass.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify that the mole is defined as 12 g of the Carbon-12 isotope, not the average of all naturally occurring isotopes.
  • Others suggest that the listed weight of 12.0107 g/mole reflects the natural isotopic mixture of carbon, indicating the presence of heavier isotopes.
  • One participant notes the proportions of carbon isotopes: 98.9% Carbon-12, 1.1% Carbon-13, and trace amounts of Carbon-14.
  • There is a discussion about the distinction between atomic mass units (amu) and relative atomic mass (r.a.m.), with some participants expressing confusion over these terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the distinction between the mole definition and the average atomic weight due to isotopic composition, but there is some confusion regarding the terminology used to describe atomic mass and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the potential misunderstanding of terms like atomic mass unit and relative atomic mass, as well as the implications of isotopic distribution on the average atomic weight.

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In my table of elements, C is listed as having a weight of 12.0107. I presume it means 12.0107g/mole of carbon. I thought Carbon was defined to be 12g per mole?
 
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No, the mole was defined to be 12g of the Carbon-12 isotope, not of the naturally occurring isotope mix.
 
Rach3 said:
No, the mole was defined to be 12g of the Carbon-12 isotope, not of the naturally occurring isotope mix.

So that weight of C was taken as all types of carbon in nature, not just the 12 isotope. It would also suggest there are more heavier isotopes of carbon than lighter ones in nature.
 
the amu of an atom is an average of the most common occurring isotopes
 
Huh? A.m.u. is a unit of mass.
 
Rach3 said:
Huh? A.m.u. is a unit of mass.

umm...ya, thus, atomic mass unit :smile:
 
Yes, but the a.m.u. is the mass of a nucleon. You're confusing it with r.a.m., or relative atomic mass - which is related to the proportion of isotopes, as Rach3 said.
 

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