Why is cos^-1 used in the first example but not the second?

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The discussion centers around the use of inverse cosine (cos-1) in two examples presented in a video about vectors and trigonometry. Participants are trying to understand why the instructor explicitly uses cos-1 in the first example to find an angle but does not mention it in the second example, despite having all the necessary side lengths for a right triangle.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the instructor assumes viewers understand that to find an angle from cosθ, one must use cos-1, as demonstrated in the first example.
  • Others note that the instructor does not explicitly state the use of cos-1 in the second example, which leads to confusion about whether it was used at all.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the explanation provided and seeks further clarification on the differences in the instructor's approach between the two examples.
  • Another participant reiterates that both examples involve the relationship cosθ = something, but the second example omits the explicit mention of the inverse function.
  • A participant shares a general guideline about using inverse trigonometric functions to find angles in right triangles, indicating their relevance to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the instructor's omission of the explicit use of cos-1 in the second example is the source of confusion. However, there is no consensus on whether this omission was appropriate or whether it should have been clarified further.

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The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with trigonometric concepts and the assumptions made by the instructor regarding the audience's understanding. There is also a mention of the importance of vectors in the context of an algebraic physics course, indicating that some participants may be grappling with foundational concepts.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about vectors and trigonometry, particularly those who are transitioning into more complex applications in physics or mathematics.

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I don't know if this is the right forum, but this isn't really a homework question that I have to solve, I am just trying to get better with vectors/trig and I looked at this for basic examples. I am okay with finding x and y components, but I am unsure why the woman in the video used cos-1 in the first example to find an angle but not in the second. She breaks the second example down into one nice and neat right triangle and has all the values for all three sides in meters but doesn't use cos-1 in the second example as she did in the first, despite having all values for each side? Can anyone clarify for me?

 
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She ends up with ##\cos \theta## in the second example as well. Then she says what this makes ##\theta##. I guess she didn't mention taking ##\cos^{-1}## explicitly because she assumed you'd know that that is how to get from ##\cos \theta## to ##\theta##, as she showed you in the first example.
 
PeroK said:
She ends up with ##\cos \theta## in the second example as well. Then she says what this makes ##\theta##. I guess she didn't mention taking ##\cos^{-1}## explicitly because she assumed you'd know that that is how to get from ##\cos \theta## to ##\theta##, as she showed you in the first example.

I have no idea what you just said and I would very much like to understand why she uses cos-1 in the first and cos in the second :frown:
 
PhyiscsisNeat said:
I have no idea what you just said and I would very much like to understand why she uses cos-1 in the first and cos in the second :frown:

In both cases she has ##\cos \theta = ## something.

In the first example, she says ##\theta = cos^{-1} ## of that something and does the calculation

In the second example, she simply misses out that statement and tells you what she calculated ##\theta## to be. She assumed that you could work out for yourself that to go from ##\cos \theta## to ##\theta## you use ##\cos^{-1}##. She doesn't have to tell you every time!

In other words, you are not going to be told every step in every calculation every time.
 
PeroK said:
In both cases she has ##\cos \theta = ## something.

In the first example, she says ##\theta = cos^{-1} ## of that something and does the calculation

In the second example, she simply misses out that statement and tells you what she calculated ##\theta## to be. She assumed that you could work out for yourself that to go from ##\cos \theta## to ##\theta## you use ##\cos^{-1}##. She doesn't have to tell you every time!

In other words, you are not going to be told every step in every calculation every time.

Thanks. So she used cos-1 the second time as well but just didn't show it?? I googled when to use inverse trig functions and found:

"Inverse Sine, Cosine and Tangent. The inverse trigonometric functions (sin-1, cos-1, and tan-1) allow you to find the measure of an angle in a right triangle. All that you need to know are any two sides as well as how to use SOHCAHTOA."

I'm about to start the second part of an algebraic physics course/simple mechanics class and vectors have been confusing me but I think this helps a lot (if I'm reading it correctly). I can solve the word problems with algebra all day until I pass out, but throw vectors in there and I'm confused. I know how important vectors are so I hope I have figured it out. Thank you for the replies.
 

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