Why is it that cocaine crystals aren't transparent

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The discussion centers on the optical properties of cocaine crystals, particularly why high-purity cocaine crystals are not transparent, contrasting this with the transparency of other pure crystals. The conversation touches on concepts from organic chemistry, crystallization, and the nature of purity in substances.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that high-purity cocaine crystals appear as pearly flakes and are not transparent, which seems counterintuitive compared to other high-purity crystals.
  • Others argue that the perception of "quality" in drugs does not necessarily correlate with chemical purity, suggesting that high purity does not always mean transparency.
  • A participant notes that while drug purity can reach high percentages, it does not guarantee transparency, raising questions about the nature of crystal structures.
  • It is mentioned that pure crystalline silicon is highly reflective and not transparent, challenging the assumption that pure crystals must be transparent.
  • Another participant explains that factors such as light absorption, reflection, and the presence of many small crystals can contribute to a material's opacity.
  • Impurities with different refractive indices can also affect the transparency of a crystal.
  • A comparison is made to gemstones, where inclusions can affect clarity and transparency, indicating that appearance can vary significantly based on internal structure.
  • One participant suggests recrystallization as a method to potentially alter the properties of the crystals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between purity and transparency, with no consensus reached on whether pure crystals must be transparent. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific optical properties of cocaine crystals compared to other substances.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of purity, the complexity of crystal structures, and the influence of impurities on optical properties. The discussion does not resolve the nuances of these factors.

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So I admittedly was a former cocaine user. I've since cleaned up and am back in school and my life is going in the right direction for once. I took a class in organic chemistry this previous semester and we did a lab on recrystallization. I think it was boric acid that I recrystallized, but I remember reading before that transparent crystals tend to be the purest.

Anyway, one thing about cocaine is that when it is of very high quality (high purity), it is composed of pearly flakes which are not transparent at all. They look silverish, like aluminum. Very shiny. Why is it that cocaine crystals, when they're of high purity, aren't transparent but other crystals are? This seems counter-intuitive to me.

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Siber said:
before that transparent crystals tend to be the purest.
... and, your question is what? Physiological effects are unrelated to "purity/quality" as you seem to think. "Quality" does not imply purity.
 
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... and, your question is what? Physiological effects are unrelated to "purity/quality" as you seem to think. "Quality" does not imply purity.

You seem to be saying that just because a user thinks the product is high quality, doesn't mean its purity is high. This may be correct, but drug seizures easily reach into the high 80%'s to lower 90%'s for purity, yet the product is still pearl flakes. This still leaves me asking, why aren't these high purity crystals transparent, like high purity crystals of other substances?

EDIT: I'm actually looking at pictures right now of crystals of substances (like gemstones for example), which are pure, but aren't transparent. Am I incorrect in my assumption that a pure crystal must be a transparent one?
 
Siber said:
Am I incorrect in my assumption that a pure crystal must be a transparent one?

Yes. Metals are composed of tiny crystals, for example.

Also, while 90% may be 'high purity' to a junkie, it's not to a chemist. >99% is not uncommon.
 
"High purity" in chemistry is more like 99.999%.

Even with 100% purity, there are two things that can make the material intransparent:
- the crystal itself can absorb or reflect visible light. Every metal is an example.
- the material can be made out of many small crystals that are loosely connected. Light can be scattered at every border between those crystals, and the material looks white. Snow is an example: the individual ice crystals are transparent, but you have to many surfaces that scatter light that snow does not look clear. Compressed to solid ice with larger and more compact crystals it gets transparent again.
 
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Material also can include impurities with other refractive index.
 
This brings to my mind something else that is expensive, namely gemstones. Rubies should be very clear and transparent when without any fractures in them, but almost always there are so called "inclusions", which are small fractures inside the stone and make it less transparent:

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Of course, the expensiveness of those gemstones can vary greatly depending on the clearness of their appearance. In the case of drugs, the appearance of the material doesn't usually matter much, though.
 
You should try to recrystallize it and cool it very slowly.
 

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