Why Is lim g(t)/t = 0 as t -> 0?

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the function g(t) as t approaches 0, specifically exploring why lim g(t)/t = 0. Participants engage with concepts related to infinite series, the behavior of terms in limits, and the definition of little o notation in mathematical analysis.

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  • One participant presents the claim that g(t) = t²/2! + t³/3! + ... is o(t), leading to the assertion that lim g(t)/t = 0 as t approaches 0.
  • Another participant questions the validity of this claim, expressing uncertainty about how to rigorously prove that lim g(t)/t = 0 given that g(t) is an infinite sum.
  • A subsequent reply suggests rewriting g(t) in closed form as a series, which allows for a clearer analysis of the limit of g(t)/t.
  • Some participants argue that while each term in the series tends to zero, the convergence of the entire sum is not guaranteed unless it converges absolutely.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of o(h) and how it applies to different forms, specifically questioning whether o(√h) should be defined in terms of f(h) or f(√h).

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Participants express differing views on the convergence of the series and the implications for the limit of g(t)/t. There is no consensus on the proof of the limit or the conditions under which the series converges absolutely.

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Some participants highlight the importance of absolute convergence in determining the behavior of infinite series, while others focus on the individual limits of terms within the series. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and interpretations regarding limits and series convergence.

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"Little o" function

Claim: et= 1 + t +o(t)

Proof:
et = 1 + t + t2/2! + t3/3! +...
Let g(t)=t2/2! + t3/3! +...
g(t) is o(t), thus et= 1 + t +o(t).
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I don't understand why g(t) is o(t).
Why is it true that
lim g(t)/t = 0 ?
t->0

I know that for example lim[f(x)+g(x)]=lim f(x) + lim g(x), so if lim f(x)=0 and lim g(x)=0, then
lim[f(x)+g(x)] = 0+0 = 0. I believe this property is true only when computing the limit of a sum of a FINITE number of functions.

But g(t)/t above is an infinite sum; it has an infinite number of terms. How can we compute and prove that the limit of g(t)/t is 0? I know each term goes to 0, but we are summing an INFINITE number of terms, so how can you be sure that the limit is 0?

Any help/explanations would be much apprecaited!
 
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Well, the thing about our "infinite function" is that it can be rewritten in closed form like so:

[tex]g(t) = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{t^n}{n!}[/tex]

Now if this is g(t), then g(t)/t is like so:

[tex]\frac{g(t)}{t} = \frac{1}{t} \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{t^n}{n!} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{t^{n-1}}{n!}[/tex]

Now it's easy to see that for all n>1, t^(n-1)/n! tends to zero as t tends to zero. So therefore, every term in the sum tends to zero, and the sum itself thus tends to zero.
 


So therefore, every term in the sum tends to zero, and the sum itself thus tends to zero.
I am having some trouble with this. If the upper limit of the sum is, say, 10, (i.e. a finite series where we are summing up a FINITE number of functions) then I can understand that the limit of the sum would be 0. There is a theorem/property of limits that guarantees this, which is lim[f(x)+g(x)]=lim f(x) + lim g(x) when the limits of the RHS both exist.
so if lim f(x)=0 and lim g(x)=0, then lim[f(x)+g(x)] = 0+0 = 0.

But for g(t)/t here, we are summing up an INFINITE number of terms that tend to 0, how can we justify or even rigorously prove that
lim g(t)/t = 0 ?
t->0

Thanks for the help!
 


Char. Limit said:
So therefore, every term in the sum tends to zero, and the sum itself thus tends to zero.

That's not necessarily true for series not converging absolutely, I believe.
 


disregardthat said:
That's not necessarily true for series not converging absolutely, I believe.

Then prove that it converges absolutely. I'm almost certain that this particular series does.
 


Char. Limit said:
Then prove that it converges absolutely. I'm almost certain that this particular series does.

Surely this series does, since the terms are always of the same sign for positive t (which proves it for negative t as well). I was pointing out that the general statement does not hold.
 


OK! Now I have another question.

Definition: A function f is called o(h) if
lim [f(h)/h] = 0.
h->0

I understand what o(h) means, but in one of the examples from my textbook an o(√h) pops up, but I don't understand the meaning of o(√h).

Do we say f is o(√h) if
lim [f(h)/√h] = 0?
√h->0

or do we say f is o(√h) if
lim [f(√h)/√h] = 0?
√h->0

Thanks for explaining!
 


The first alternative, but as h --> 0.
 

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