Why is mass included in the period calculation of SHM for point charges?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the period of simple harmonic motion (SHM) for a system of point charges. The original poster questions the inclusion of mass in the period calculation when the system is primarily influenced by electric forces, specifically Coulomb's law.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why mass is included in the period calculation despite the system being composed of point charges. Some participants explore the relevance of gravitational forces in the context of SHM, while others question the necessity of mass in the equations given the nature of the forces involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the role of mass in the context of electric forces and SHM. There is no explicit consensus, but various perspectives on the importance of mass and gravitational effects are being examined.

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The problem does not define the mass of the charges and explicitly ignores gravitational forces, leading to questions about the relevance of mass in the solution provided by the textbook.

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This is a question I already solved but was curious about something. There are two positive point charges of the same maginitude on the same axis. They are some distance appart with third point positive charge placed slightly off the midpoint between the two original charges. The question is to find the period of the SHM. In solving this I basically applied Coulumb's law as the restoring force. After looking at the answer the book gave I noticed it still had a variable for mass included. My question is why would mass even come into play for a system composed of point particles with electric force? If gravity is neglected, couldn't I just apply the the particle's charges in place of mass?
 
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Are you referring to how the electric force is generally much stronger than the gravitational force, so why we even care about the gravitational force? In general, if I am understanding what you are asking about, you are right and the gravitational force probably won't have much of an effect. Nonetheless, if you want to examine the particle's motion of long periods of time the gravitational force might need to be included; for example, gravity might damp the SHM.
 
The question ignores gravity and does not even define a mass for any of the charges (they are all treated as positive point particles). The solution in the book still included a "m" for mass as though it would matter for a system such as this one.
 
Hmm, I would have to see the problem, but I don't see anything irregular with having mass constants in your solutions - particularly if they are in the angular frequency.
 

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