Why is the activity of water as a solvent very nearly 1?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of activity in the context of water as a solvent, particularly why its activity is considered to be very nearly 1 in dilute solutions. The scope includes theoretical explanations and conceptual clarifications related to chemical equilibria and thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equilibrium constant formula and questions the origin of the value 1 for the activity of water, noting that it is not simply the concentration of water divided by a standard concentration.
  • Another participant suggests that the concept of activity is more complex than initially understood, explaining that for pure solids or liquids, the concentration used to calculate activity is effectively the same in both the numerator and denominator, leading to an activity of approximately 1 for pure water.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that the choice of 1 as the standard state activity is somewhat arbitrary and could be replaced with any other number without affecting the final results of calculations, as long as all values are rescaled accordingly.
  • Another participant clarifies that in standard states, the Gibbs free energy change is defined such that the activities of components are 0, with the standard state for solvents being pure solvent and for solutes being at infinite dilution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying perspectives on the nature of activity and its standard state, with no consensus reached on the implications of choosing 1 as the activity value for water. Some agree on the technical reasoning behind the value, while others highlight its arbitrary nature.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of standard states and the implications of choosing different reference values for activity, which may affect interpretations of thermodynamic data.

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Homework Statement
Consider the proton transfer reaction between water molecules
Relevant Equations
$$\mathrm{H_2O(l)+H_2O(l)\leftrightharpoons H_3O^+(aq)+OH^-(aq)}$$
The equilibrium constant is

$$K=\frac{a_{\mathrm{H_3O^+}}a_{\mathrm{OH^-}}}{(a_{\mathrm{H_2O}})^2}$$

where ##a_J## denotes the activity of a solute ##\text{J}## in a dilute solution, ##\mathrm{[J]}/c^\circ## with ##c^\circ=1\mathrm{mol\cdot L^{-1}}##.

The book I am following says that the solvent, water, is very nearly pure, "and so its activity may be taken to be 1".

Where does this 1 come from?

It certainly is not $$\mathrm{[H_2O]/c^\circ}$$.
 
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Okay, so it seems that "activity" is not as simple as it was presented to me so far.

Apparently, if a substance ##J## is a pure solid or liquid then whatever concentration it has is the "standard concentration" that you divide by when you compute activity. Thus, pure water as a solvent in a dilute solution has approximately this standard concentration and so when we calculation activity we have the same concentration in the numerator and denominator.

I don't know much more that this very vague explanation but I can see that there is a relatively simple reason for the 1.
 
There are probably historical reasons why we ended with 1, but to some extent it is an arbitrary number. We could choose any other number for the activity in the standard state, as activity in every other state is in a relation to that basic one. So if you choose 1 you just make the reference easier to remember. Sure, choosing any other number would require rescaling all values of experimentally determined thermodynamic data - but if you were to use these new numbers in practical calculations changes would cancel out and final results would be exactly the same they are now.

So let's stick with 1 :wink:
 
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The point is, that if all components are in their standard states, ##\Delta G=\Delta G^o## by definition.
As ## \Delta G=\Delta G^o+\sum_i \nu_i RT \ln a_i##, the ##a_i## have to be 0 in the standard state as ##\ln 1=0##. For solvents, the standard state is the pure solvent, for solutes, the solute at infinite dilution extrapolated to a concentration of 1 mol/L (or some molality condition). For gasses, a pressure of 1 atm, strictly speaking also extrapolated from infinitely low pressures.
 

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