Why is the cross product perpendicular?

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The discussion centers on the nature of the cross product of two vectors and why the resulting vector is perpendicular to the plane formed by the original vectors. Participants explore definitions, mathematical proofs, and the utility of the cross product in vector mathematics.

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  • One participant questions the reasoning behind the definition of the cross product, suggesting it seems arbitrary and seeks to understand its origin.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the definition of the cross product, indicating a need for foundational understanding.
  • A mathematical explanation is provided using the matrix definition of the cross product, demonstrating that the dot product of the cross product with either of the original vectors is zero, thus confirming perpendicularity.
  • Another participant notes that the cross product is essentially the only product that yields a vector perpendicular to the two input vectors, emphasizing its practical utility in finding such a vector.

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Participants express varying perspectives on the definition and reasoning behind the cross product, with no consensus reached on its foundational justification or the nature of its definition.

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Some assumptions about the properties of vectors and the operations defined on them are not explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve the foundational questions raised about the definition of the cross product.

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Why is the cross product of two vectors perpendicular to the plane the two vectors lie on?

I am aware that you can prove this by showing that:

(\vec{a}\times\vec{b})\cdot\vec{a} = (\vec{a}\times\vec{b})\cdot\vec{b} = 0

Surely it was not defined as this and worked backwards though. I see little advantage in making this definition, and simply guessing it seems a bit random, so what brings it about?
 
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What is your definition of the cross product?
 
By the matrix definition of the cross product we have
\vec{a}\times \vec{b} \cdot \vec{c} <br /> = \begin{vmatrix} \vec{i} &amp; \vec{j} &amp; \vec{k} \\ a_i &amp; a_j &amp; a_k \\ b_i &amp; b_j &amp; b_k \end{vmatrix} \cdot \vec{c}<br /> = (\vec{i} \begin{vmatrix} a_j &amp; a_k \\ b_j &amp; b_k \end{vmatrix} -\vec{j} \begin{vmatrix} a_i &amp; a_k \\ b_i &amp; b_k \end{vmatrix} + \vec{k} \begin{vmatrix} a_i &amp; a_j \\ b_i &amp; b_j \end{vmatrix} ) \cdot \vec{c} \\ <br /> = (c_i \begin{vmatrix} a_j &amp; a_k \\ b_j &amp; b_k \end{vmatrix} -c_j \begin{vmatrix} a_i &amp; a_k \\ b_i &amp; b_k \end{vmatrix} + c_k \begin{vmatrix} a_i &amp; a_j \\ b_i &amp; b_j \end{vmatrix} )<br /> = \begin{vmatrix} c_i &amp; c_j &amp; c_k \\ a_i &amp; a_j &amp; a_k \\ b_i &amp; b_j &amp; b_k \end{vmatrix}.

When \vec{c} = \vec{a} or \vec{c} = \vec{b} the determinant has two equal rows and becomes zero. This means the dot product is zero and the vectors are perpendicular.
 
The cross product is the (up to multiplication by a constant) only product possible that takes two vectors to a third. It is also extremely useful to produce a vector perpendicular to two given vectors. All the time you have two vectors and need one perpendicular to them. Bam! Cross product done.
 

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