Why Is the Electric Field Not Zero Inside the Spherical Cavity?

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The discussion revolves around the electric field within a spherical cavity located at the center of a metal sphere, specifically addressing the scenario where a point charge is placed at the center of the cavity. Participants are exploring why the electric field is not zero at a point inside the conductor, despite the common understanding that fields within a conductor should be zero.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning the assumption that the electric field must be zero inside the conductor, particularly at a distance of 2.0 cm from the center of the cavity. They are considering the implications of Gauss' law in this context and discussing the distribution of charge on the conductor's surfaces.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of electric fields in conductors and the role of Gauss' law, suggesting that the field cannot be zero due to the presence of the enclosed charge. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of electric fields in conductors and cavities, with specific reference to the charge distribution and the application of Gauss' law. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion between different scenarios involving charged spheres and cavities.

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Homework Statement



A spherical cavity of radius 4.50 cm is at the center of a metal sphere of radius 18.0 cm. A point charge Q = 6.40 µC rests at the very center of the cavity, whereas the metal conductor carries no net charge. Determine the electric field at the following points.
(a) 2.0 cm from the center of the cavity


Homework Equations



integral of ( E * dA ) = (1/Epsilon o) * Q enc
E = k q / r2

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer, is suppose to 1.44e8, and has a very straightforward use of E = k q / r2.

My question is why isn't the electric field 0 at 2.0 cm from the center at the cavity. Isn't that inside the static metal conductor, hence must be 0.

Thanks all!
 
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SupremeV said:

Homework Statement



A spherical cavity of radius 4.50 cm is at the center of a metal sphere of radius 18.0 cm. A point charge Q = 6.40 µC rests at the very center of the cavity, whereas the metal conductor carries no net charge. Determine the electric field at the following points.
(a) 2.0 cm from the center of the cavity


Homework Equations



integral of ( E * dA ) = (1/Epsilon o) * Q enc
E = k q / r2

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer, is suppose to 1.44e8, and has a very straightforward use of E = k q / r2.

My question is why isn't the electric field 0 at 2.0 cm from the center at the cavity. Isn't that inside the static metal conductor, hence must be 0.
The short answer is: because Gauss' law would be violated if the field was 0. For a concentric Gaussian shell of radius 2 cm, the enclosed charge is not 0. So the field at the surface of that shell cannot be 0.

You may be confusing a situation in which you are to determine the field inside a charged sphere, with no charge inside the spherical cavity. In that case, there would be no enclosed charge (all the charge would be outside a Gaussian sphere of radius 2 cm) so the field would be 0.

AM
 
Hi SupremeV :biggrin:

(Have an epsilon and integral: ε, ∫ and try using X2 and X2 button just above the reply box --- ©Tiny-Tim)

Field is only zero inside the material of the conductor ... not the hollow space

In this case ... the two surfaces(inner and outer) of hollow sphere will get come charge so as to balance the electric field due to central charge ... in in fact this property of conductors (and gauss law) is used to find this charge.
 
Thank you! I appreciate the help!
 

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