Why Is the Empty Set Considered Unique?

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The discussion centers on the uniqueness of the empty set, exploring various proofs and reasoning related to set theory, particularly the axiom of extensionality and proof by contradiction. Participants engage in clarifying the implications of these concepts and the relationships between sets that contain no elements.

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  • Some participants assert that the empty set is unique based on the axiom stating that two sets with the same elements are equal.
  • One participant questions how to derive the relation that connects the non-membership of elements in both sets, suggesting it leads to a contradiction if the sets are assumed to be different.
  • Another participant argues against using proof by contradiction, stating that the axiom of extensionality directly implies that if two sets are empty, they must be equal.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of certain logical equivalences, particularly regarding the implications of both sides being false in the context of set membership.
  • Participants discuss the contraposition of the axiom of extensionality and its implications for proving set equality.
  • One participant proposes multiple methods to prove the uniqueness of the empty set, indicating a variety of approaches to the problem.

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There is no consensus on the preferred method of proof for the uniqueness of the empty set. Participants express differing views on the validity of proof by contradiction and the interpretation of logical statements related to set membership.

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Participants highlight potential misunderstandings regarding logical equivalences and the application of axioms in set theory, indicating that some assumptions may not be fully articulated or agreed upon.

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Hello! (Cool)

Sentence

The set, that does not contain any element, is unique.

Proof:

Let's suppose that $a,b$ are sets, so that each of these sets does not contain any element and $a \neq b$.

From the axiom: Two sets, that have the same elements, are equal., there is (without loss of generality )

$$x \in a \text{ and } x \notin b (*)$$

$a,b$ do not contain any element.

$$\forall x (x \notin a)$$
$$\forall x (x \notin b)$$

$$\forall x (x \notin a \leftrightarrow x \notin b) (**)$$

From $(*)$ and $(**)$, we have a contradiction, so the set that does not contain any element is unique.Could you explain me how we get the relation $(**)$ ?
 
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evinda said:
$$\forall x (x \notin a)$$
$$\forall x (x \notin b)$$

$$\forall x (x \notin a \leftrightarrow x \notin b) (**)$$

...

Could you explain me how we get the relation $(**)$ ?
In general, from $\forall x\;P(x)$ and $\forall x\;Q(x)$ we can conclude $\forall x\;(P(x)\leftrightarrow Q(x))$. Indeed, for every $x$ both sides of the equivalence $P(x)\leftrightarrow Q(x)$ are true.

I wouldn't use a proof by contradiction for this. The axiom says
\[
a=b\leftrightarrow \forall x\;(x\in a\leftrightarrow x\in b)
\]
If $a$ and $b$ are empty sets, then $x\in a$ and $x\in b$ are both false for all $x$, so $\forall x\;(x\in a\leftrightarrow x\in b)$ holds, which implies $a=b$.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
In general, from $\forall x\;P(x)$ and $\forall x\;Q(x)$ we can conclude $\forall x\;(P(x)\leftrightarrow Q(x))$. Indeed, for every $x$ both sides of the equivalence $P(x)\leftrightarrow Q(x)$ are true.

I understand! (Smile)

I wouldn't use a proof by contradiction for this. The axiom says
\[
a=b\leftrightarrow \forall x\;(x\in a\leftrightarrow x\in b)
\]

Evgeny.Makarov said:
If $a$ and $b$ are empty sets, then $x\in a$ and $x\in b$ are both false for all $x$, so $\forall x\;(x\in a\leftrightarrow x\in b)$ holds, which implies $a=b$.

Could you explain it further to me? (Sweating)
 
Hmm, I am not sure what to explain. Which part is not clear?
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Hmm, I am not sure what to explain. Which part is not clear?

I haven't understood why this: $\forall x (x \in a \leftrightarrow x \in b)$ holds, although $x \in a$ and $x \in b$ are both false..
Shouldn't it be $\forall x (x \notin a \leftrightarrow x \notin b)$ ? Or am I wrong? (Thinking)
 
$A\leftrightarrow B$ holds iff both $A$ and $B$ are true or if both of them are false.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
If $a$ and $b$ are empty sets, then $x\in a$ and $x\in b$ are both false for all $x$, so $\forall x\;(x\in a\leftrightarrow x\in b)$ holds, which implies $a=b$

Evgeny.Makarov said:
$A\leftrightarrow B$ holds iff both $A$ and $B$ are true or if both of them are false.

A ok.. I got it! (Nod)

Is the proof by contradiction wrong? (Thinking)
 
evinda said:
Is the proof by contradiction wrong?
I wrote about it in https://driven2services.com/staging/mh/index.php?posts/58821/.
 
From the axiom: Two sets, that have the same elements, are equal., there is (without loss of generality )

$$x \in a \text{ and } x \notin b (*)$$

Could you explain me why the above is the contraposition of the axiom of extension? (Thinking)
 
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evinda said:
Could you explain me why the above is the contraposition of the axiom of extension? (Thinking)

By the axiom of extensionality we have:

$$a=b\Longleftrightarrow\forall x[x\in a\Longleftrightarrow x\in b]$$

THAT IMPLIES:

$$a=b\Longleftarrow\forall x[x\in a\Longleftrightarrow x\in b]$$

AND by contrapositive law we have:

$$a\neq b\Longrightarrow\neg[\forall x(x\in a\Longleftrightarrow x\in b)]$$

BUT

$$\neg[\forall x(x\in a\Longleftrightarrow x\in b)]$$ is equevalent to:

$$\exists x[ \neg((x\in a\Longrightarrow x\in b)\wedge(x\in b\longrightarrow x\in a))]$$

AND that implies ,by using D MORGAN$$ \neg(x\in a\Longrightarrow x\in b)\vee\neg(x\in b\longrightarrow x\in a)$$

Which is equivalent to:

$$(x\in a\wedge\neg x\in b)\vee(x\in b\wedge\neg x\in a)$$
 
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evinda said:
Hello! (Cool)

Sentence

The set, that does not contain any element, is unique.

Proof:

Let's suppose that $a,b$ are sets, so that each of these sets does not contain any element and $a \neq b$.

From the axiom: Two sets, that have the same elements, are equal., there is (without loss of generality )

$$x \in a \text{ and } x \notin b (*)$$

$a,b$ do not contain any element.

$$\forall x (x \notin a)$$
$$\forall x (x \notin b)$$

$$\forall x (x \notin a \leftrightarrow x \notin b) (**)$$

From $(*)$ and $(**)$, we have a contradiction, so the set that does not contain any element is unique.Could you explain me how we get the relation $(**)$ ?

A proof by contradiction is the following:

Let $$a\neq b$$

Now:

suppose $$\neg x\in a$$.......1

Since b is empty we have :

$$\forall x (\neg x\in b)$$
OR

$$ (\neg x\in b)$$........2

And by the rule of conditional proof we can conclude:

$$\neg x\in a\Longrightarrow\neg x\in b$$........3...

In the same way we infer that:

$$\neg x\in b\Longrightarrow\neg x\in a $$.................4

Now from (3) and using contrapositive we have:

$$x\in b\Longrightarrow x\in a$$................5

In same way;

$$x\in a\Longrightarrow x\in b$$.................6

FROM (5) and (6) we can conclude:

$$x\in a\longleftrightarrow x\in b$$
OR

$$\forall x[x\in a\Longleftrightarrow x\in b]$$

And by the axiom of extensionality we have: a=b a contradiction since we assumed $$a\neq b$$

Hence : a=b

There at least 5,6 different ways one can prove the uniqueness of the empty set
 

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