Why is the Higgs field a scalar field?

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The discussion centers around the nature of the Higgs field, specifically why it is classified as a scalar field. Participants explore its properties, its role in giving mass to elementary particles, and the distinction between the Higgs field and the Higgs boson. The conversation includes theoretical implications and the concept of spontaneous symmetry breaking.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the Higgs field is a spin-0 scalar field that provides mass to elementary particles, questioning how it can be considered a scalar field if it is thought to be homogeneous.
  • Others clarify that the Higgs field is a uniform background scalar field, which allows other particles to acquire mass in an electroweak gauge invariant manner, distinguishing it from the Higgs boson, which is an excitation of this field.
  • One participant mentions that the Higgs field's role in spontaneous symmetry breaking is crucial for the mass of W and Z bosons, which were initially massless at high temperatures.
  • Another participant discusses the mathematical aspects of introducing the Higgs field into models, suggesting that it is a manual insertion tailored to provide specific properties needed for mass generation.
  • There is a reference to the concept of Nambu-Goldstone bosons in relation to scalar particles gaining mass through absorption by massive particles.
  • One participant emphasizes the requirement of symmetry-breaking as a fundamental aspect of the Higgs field's function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature and implications of the Higgs field, with some agreeing on its classification as a scalar field while others raise questions about its homogeneity and the implications of symmetry breaking. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of scalar fields and the nuances of symmetry breaking, which are not fully explored in the discussion. There are also unresolved mathematical steps regarding the integration of the Higgs field into theoretical models.

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as i understand it the higgs field is a spin-0 scalar field that gives mass to elementry particles. How is it a scalar field? I thought it was homogenous.
 
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please don't be too harsh.
 
as i understand it the higgs field is a spin-0 scalar field that gives mass to elementry particles. How is it a scalar field? I thought it was homogenous.
Is it possible you're confusing the Higgs field with the Higgs boson? The Higgs field is a uniform background scalar field whose existence permits other particles to have mass in an electroweak gauge invariant manner. The Higgs boson is an excitation of the Higgs field. Since the Higgs field is a scalar field, the Higgs boson has spin 0.
 
It IS a scalar [spin 0] field...

Wikipedia has a pretty good general description here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism

Meantime:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.5212v2.pdf

The technically easiest way to achieve SSB in an interacting field theory is to introduce an effective scalar field and adjust its phenomenological potential so that it has a symmetry-breaking
Like other components of the Standard Model, Higg's fields are manual insertions [mathematical additions] individually tailored with the specific properties needed to provide different particles with observed mass; We need a mechanism of spontaneous symmetry breaking to bring forth mass; The Higgs Field provides such a tool. Symmetry transformations are generated on Hilbert space of states by unitary operators.

When you know the additional physical characteristics required in a partial theory, you can invent mathematics to produce them and glue them into whatever model you'd like. Like adding the Higg's field in early cosmology to provide spontaneous symmetry breaking.from a prior discussion: [from Post #12]
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MArkM: The weak force is mediated by three massive particles, called the W+, W-, and Z bosons. One important aspect of the Standard Model is electroweak symmetry - at a sufficiently high temperature (at a time immediately after the big bang), the weak force becomes indiscernible from the electromagnetic force. This means that the W and Z bosons were initially massless. Breaking this symmetry is the job of the Higgs field. Spin 1 particles like the W and Z bosons have at least two degrees of freedom. One way a massless particle could gain mass is by the absorption of a scalar (spin 0) particle as its longitudional mode (as it's second degree of freedom).

A scalar particle that does this is called a Nambu-Goldstone bosonUOTE]

edit: I see Bill_K posted while I was composing: "The Higgs boson is an excitation of the Higgs field."
yes...
so this is what we detect locally, a 'particle' meaning a quanta/excitation of the theoretical field.
 
I think it is the requirement of symmetry-breaking.
 

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