Why Is the Immersion Tube Heat Exchanger Not Heating the Tank Efficiently?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the inefficiency of a corrugated stainless steel tube immersion heater used in a solar hot water system. Participants explore the heat transfer dynamics between the immersion tube heat exchanger (HEX) and the thermal storage tank, aiming to understand why the system is not heating the tank effectively as expected.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the issue of insufficient energy transfer from the immersion tube HEX to the tank, noting that the solar panel temperature rises too quickly and the tank takes too long to heat.
  • Another participant suggests using a differential equation to model the heat transfer, providing a formula that relates the rate of change of tank temperature to the heat exchanger's performance.
  • A follow-up post seeks clarification on the terms used in the equations, specifically asking about the U value for the tube HEX and the meaning of dT and dt in the context of the equations.
  • Participants discuss the importance of calculating the U value to understand the heat transfer efficiency of the immersion tube HEX.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to calculate heat transfer parameters and the relevance of the heat balance equations, but there is no consensus on the specific solutions or adjustments needed to improve the system's efficiency.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific conditions under which the heat transfer is being evaluated, such as the average temperature of the tank and the precise characteristics of the immersion tube HEX.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals involved in solar thermal systems, heat exchanger design, or those interested in thermal energy transfer calculations may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all,

Im new to this forum and would greatly appreciate any help i can get.

I work for a solar hot water company and we have taken on an unhappy client who has been sold a custom thermal storage tank (by another firm), with a corrugated stainless steel tube immersion heater. The hot solar water, flows through this tube HEX and then warms the tank, or so the theory goes!

In reality this is not happening and we can see that the system is not able to transfer enough energy into the tank, because the solar panel temp rises way to quickly and remains high. The tank also takes way to long to heat, based on what we normally expect from a solar system.

I am desperately looking for a way to calculate the heat transfer from the tube HEX to the surrounding water in the tank.
We may choose to lengthen the tube HEX, if viable, or supply a brazed plate HEX to perform the duty required.

Basic data is as follows:

Total collectors: 20 panels
Desired flow per panel: 100l/m/panel
Solar flow rate: 33l/m
Solar temp : 70C
HEX Dia: 25mm
Total developed HEX length: 3M (ignoring corrugations)
HEX Tube Material: Stainless Steel
Tank volume: 2500L
Peak energy from all solar collectors: 36kWh

I need to know that in peak conditions i can transfer 36kWh to the tank and return much cooler water back to the panel, so that my overall efficiency is higher.

Thanks!
Nick
 
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The most accurate way to do this would be to solve this differential equation:

m cp dT / dt = QHX = UA (Tsolar - T)

for T which is the tank fluid temperature.

And approximate way to find the total heatup time would be:

t = m cp (Tf - Ti) / [ U A (Tsolar - Ttank-average) ]

where Tf and Ti are your tank fluid initial and final temperatures and T-tank-average is a suitable average temperature of the tank.

If you are not familar with these kind of calculations, let me know!
 
Thanks so much! I figured those heat balance equations would be used... This is quite a challenge for me. I assume we are after the U value for the tube hex? Also on the left side of the first equation...what exactly are dT and dt respectively and are they logarithmic temp differentials?
 
dT/dt is the rate of change of tank temp. with respect to time.
 
Thanks SteamKing and edgepflow!
I think i have all the puzzle pieces now...
I will post my calc once done...
 

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