Why is the packing fraction important for transporting watermelons and oranges?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of packing fraction in relation to transporting spherical objects, specifically chocolates, watermelons, and oranges. Participants are examining the implications of packing efficiency on volume and transport logistics.

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  • Participants are exploring the logic behind specific questions from a physics problem set, particularly focusing on the packing fraction and its impact on volume calculations. There are inquiries about the reasoning for including a packing fraction in volume equations and the implications of packing efficiency on transportation costs.

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Some participants have provided insights into the definition and significance of packing fraction, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the problem setup. There is an ongoing exploration of how packing efficiency affects the volume occupied by the candies and the implications for transporting different types of fruit.

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Participants note that the packing fraction affects the number of items that can be transported, which is particularly relevant when comparing the transportation of watermelons and oranges. There is mention of dimensional analysis in relation to the equations being discussed.

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The chocolates push each other out of the funnel.
 
BvU said:
The chocolates push each other out of the funnel.
ii) there should be a horizontal speed as well, and why would the chocolate pushed out be at the top and come down , i.e. 2r.

iii) understand this now
 
aspodkfpo said:
ii) there should be a horizontal speed as well, and why would the chocolate pushed out be at the top and come down , i.e. 2r.
Each spherical chocolate within the outlet horizontal tube is pushed by the one inmediately upstream and it pushes the one inmediately downstream.
There is no gap among them.
Because of that, any fixed point of the outlet tube "sees" five spheres to go by in one second.
A row of five spheres has a length of five diameters.

##Speed=Distance~travelled~by~one~sphere/time=(2r)(5)/1=10r/s##

"As the level in the top of the funnel is steady the number of chocolates going in the top must be the same as the number coming out the bottom of the funnel. This means that 5 chocolates per sec- ond will come out of the funnels."
 
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aspodkfpo said:
For c) iii), why did they add a /f for volume?
I believe that is the packing fraction -- the total of the individual candy volumes divided by the bulk volume they occupy. Note the comment below: "b) some students had difficulty interpreting the meaning of a packing fraction"

One way of reasoning your way to the formula above is to start by asking: How much bulk volume is occupied by five candies?

The answer is: ##5\frac{4 \pi r^3}{3f}##. They would occupy ##5 \frac{4}{3}\pi r^3## but they are inefficiently packed. So they occupy more volume than that.
 
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For c) iii), why did they add a /f for volume?
If you do a dimmensional analysis, you could see that the equation is for velocity rather than volume (Volume occupied by 5 spheres per second / Cross area of funnel).

"The packing fraction (f) is defined to be the ratio of the volume of some objects divided by the total volume of space which they occupy.
When arranged randomly the chocolates have a packing fraction of 0.64."

That is the reason that increases the cost of transporting watermelons respect to transporting oranges: you can pack less units in same truck.
 
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