Why Is the Rank of a Matrix Equal to Its Number of Pivot Points?

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The discussion centers around the relationship between the rank of a matrix and the number of pivot points in its reduced row echelon form. Participants explore definitions, implications, and examples related to the concept of rank, the basis for the range, and the properties of linear transformations.

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  • One participant questions why the rank of a matrix is defined as the number of pivot points in its reduced row echelon form.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the definition of "rank," suggesting it relates to the dimension of the range of a linear function.
  • There is a discussion about whether different sets of columns can serve as a basis for the range, specifically questioning if columns without pivot points can be expressed as linear combinations of those with pivot points.
  • Participants discuss the implications of having zero rows in a matrix and how that affects the count of pivot points.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between the range of a matrix and the solutions to a linear equation, specifically questioning why certain values must be zero.
  • Another participant clarifies that the range is generated by the columns of the matrix and that it consists of all vectors that can be expressed as Ax for some x.
  • There is a deeper inquiry into how columns without pivot points can be represented as linear combinations of those with pivot points.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the definitions and implications of rank and range. Some agree on the definitions but differ in their interpretations and applications, indicating that multiple competing views remain unresolved.

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Participants reference an attached picture to illustrate their points, which may contain additional context that is not fully conveyed in the text. There is also a lack of consensus on the basic definitions of range and how it relates to the rank of a matrix.

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This discussion may be useful for students and educators in linear algebra, particularly those grappling with the concepts of matrix rank, pivot points, and the properties of linear transformations.

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How come the rank of a matrix is equal to the amount of pivot points in the reduced row echelon form? My book denotes this a trivial point, but unfortunately I don't see it :(
 
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How did you define "rank" in the first place?
 
I don't what it is called in english but it's the dimension of the space that the linear function maps a vector onto.
 
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I don't what it is called in english but it's the dimension of the space that the linear function maps a vector onto.

OK, so it's the dimension of the range. Good.

Next step: Take a matrix A. If we put it in reduced echelon form, then we obtain a matrix B. Do you see why both matrices have the same rank??

In general: if A=EBE^{-1} for some invertible matrix E, do you see why A and B have the same rank?
 
Okay yes, I should have been able to figure that out myself. But then suppose you have row reduced matrix like the one on the attached picture. As a basis for the range you choose the vectors equal to columns with pivot points -i.e. column 1,2,3. However - wouldn't it be just as good to choose 1,2 and 4? Since that'd also make a 3 pivot points.
And lastly: Would it then also work to choose any other combination of 3 vectors out of the 4?
 

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aaaa202 said:
Okay yes, I should have been able to figure that out myself. But then suppose you have row reduced matrix like the one on the attached picture. As a basis for the range you choose the vectors equal to columns with pivot points -i.e. column 1,2,3. However - wouldn't it be just as good to choose 1,2 and 4? Since that'd also make a 3 pivot points.
And lastly: Would it then also work to choose any other combination of 3 vectors out of the 4?

Am I correct in saying that your last row is a zero row?? In that case, that doesn't count as a pivot point.
 
Yes exactly. We have 3 pivots
 
hmm I still don't get it tbh. Consider the matrix on the attached picture. What would a basis for the range then be? If you use the rule that the basis vectors equals the column with pivot points you'd get that (1,0) is a basis for the range. But how is (1,0) a basis for the solutions to equation x1 + 2x2 = a ?
 
Can you give me a specific matrix?? I don't really understand your picture.

Do notice that the range is being generated by the columns of the matrix.
 
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oops the reason you didn't understand the picture was that i forgot to attach it: here
 

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In this case, the range will be all vectors of the form (a,0). So the rank will be 1.

Note that the range is generated by the column vectors: So the range = span (1,0) , (2,0) in this case.
 
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But isn't the range the solutions to the equation:
x1 + 2x2 = a
Why does x2 have to be 0?
 
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No, not at all. Given a matrix A, to find the range: you put up the equation Ax=y. All the possibilities for y constitute the range. That is: y is in the range if there is an x such that Ax=y.
 
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Ahh okay, it'd seem I didn't understand the basic definition of the range. But other than that I think I get it now.
Except! My real, deeper problem is perhaps that I don't understand why that, when you have a matrix like the one on the attached picture. How can you then be sure, that the columns with no pivot points can be written as a linear combination of the ones who do have pivot points? In general if you have n columns and n-a of them have pivots, how can you then know, that the a of them with no pivot points can be expressed as linear combinations of the n-a columns with pivots?
 

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If A is a linear transformation from vector space U to vector space V, then the range of A is a subspace of V, not U. It is the set of all vectors, y, in V, such that y= Ax for some x in A.
 

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