Why is this true? General relativity

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The discussion revolves around understanding a mathematical statement related to scalar products in the context of general relativity and manifolds. Participants are exploring the validity of the statement beyond Euclidean space, particularly in relation to general manifolds and their properties.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the applicability of the scalar product in general manifolds and discussing the implications of having or lacking a metric. There is also an exploration of how to express vectors in terms of basis vectors and the significance of this representation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants raising questions about the assumptions underlying the mathematical statement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between general manifolds and those with metrics, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a lecture note context, suggesting that the participants are working within specific academic constraints. The distinction between general manifolds and (pseudo-)Riemannian manifolds is also highlighted as a point of contention.

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I dont understand why this is true generally. I can see it in Euclidean space, but this is for a general manifold.
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"their scalar product is..." why?

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Why would you think it is not true for a general manifold?
 
Chestermiller said:
Why would you think it is not true for a general manifold?
At the moment I don't think anything, and its Maths, not what people think. This is a lecture notes so I assume its correct. But I don't see where it comes from, I.e. Why its true
Even for euclidean space i see it intuitively not mathematically
 
Replusz said:
Homework Statement: I don't understand why this is true generally. I can see it in Euclidean space, but this is for a general manifold.

Write ##\mathbf{u}## and ##\mathbf{v}## in terms of the basis vectors ##\left\{ \partial / \partial x^\mu \right\} ##, and substitute these expressions into ##g \left( \mathbf{u} , \mathbf{v} \right)##.
 
A little nitpicking about terminology. There is no "general manifold" statement really accurate.
The sensible way to make the scalar product of ##\mathbb{R}^n## "more general" is to consider manifolds with metric, aka (pseudo-)Riemann-ian manifolds. A general manifold needn't have a metric.
 

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