Why is this (x-1) and not (1-x)?

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The discussion revolves around the method of cylindrical shells to find the volume generated by rotating a region bounded by the curves y = 4x - x² and y = 3 about the line x = 1. Participants are examining the formulation of the integral used to calculate this volume, specifically questioning the expression for the radius of revolution.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring why the radius of revolution is expressed as (x - 1) instead of (1 - x). There is a discussion about the interpretation of the positions of x and 1 in relation to the axis of rotation, with some participants suggesting that the positive distance should be measured from x to 1.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the interpretation of the radius. Some guidance has been offered regarding the measurement of distance in the context of the integral, but there is still a lack of consensus on the correct formulation.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of sketching the curves for better understanding, and there is a reference to the integral limits from 1 to 3, indicating the range of x values being considered in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Use the method of cylindrical shells to find the volume generated by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified axis.

y = 4x - x2, y = 3 about x = 1

The answer key said

[tex]\int_{1}^{3} 2\pi (x - 1)(4x - x^2 - 3) dx[/tex]

Why isn't it

[tex]\int_{1}^{3} 2\pi (1 -x)(4x - x^2 - 3) dx[/tex]

(1 - x) makes so much more sense. (1 - x) essentially means (at least to me) the axis from x = x (x axis) to x = 1
 
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Because x>1 and the volume is positive.

It's a good to draw a sketch of the curves before starting a problem like this.
 
flyingpig said:

Homework Statement



Use the method of cylindrical shells to find the volume generated by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified axis.

y = 4x - x2, y = 3 about x = 1

The answer key said

[tex]\int_{1}^{3} 2\pi (x - 1)(4x - x^2 - 3) dx[/tex]

Why isn't it

[tex]\int_{1}^{3} 2\pi (1 -x)(4x - x^2 - 3) dx[/tex]

(1 - x) makes so much more sense. (1 - x) essentially means (at least to me) the axis from x = x (x axis) to x = 1

If x is the x value of your little dx element, the radius of revolution is the horizontal distance between x and 1. You always measure xright - xleft to get the positive horizontal distance between them. In your problem x is on the right and 1 is on the left of your radius of revolution. So it is x - 1.
 
I don't see it, I still see my "right" is x = 1 and left as x = x

I've always interpreted the radius x as just a change of distance
 
flyingpig said:
I don't see it, I still see my "right" is x = 1 and left as x = x

I've always interpreted the radius x as just a change of distance

In your integral, x goes from 1 to 3. x is to the right of 1.
 
uart said:
Because x>1 and the volume is positive.

It's a good to draw a sketch of the curves before starting a problem like this.

I did and it looks right to me
 

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