Why is water more efficient than air in absorbing kinetic energy?

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The discussion centers around the efficiency of water compared to air in absorbing kinetic energy, particularly in the context of a project involving model cars crashing into walls with syringes filled with varying ratios of air and water. Participants explore the implications of density, compressibility, and mass on energy absorption.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experiment where a syringe filled with water absorbed more kinetic energy than one filled with air, questioning the role of mass in this outcome.
  • Another participant points out that the density of water is significantly greater than that of air, suggesting this could be a factor in energy absorption efficiency.
  • A third participant emphasizes the weight difference between water and air, referencing the common observation of rain falling as evidence of water's greater mass.
  • One suggestion involves a simple experiment to weigh containers filled with air and water to illustrate the difference in weight.
  • Another participant notes that water's incompressibility compared to air's compressibility could significantly affect how each medium responds to applied forces in the syringes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the factors influencing the efficiency of water versus air in energy absorption, with no consensus reached on the primary reasons behind the observed results.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors such as density, compressibility, and mass, but do not resolve how these factors quantitatively relate to the energy absorption efficiency observed in the experiments.

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Individuals interested in experimental physics, fluid dynamics, or those conducting similar experiments involving kinetic energy absorption may find this discussion relevant.

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For a project of mine I tested crashing model cars into walls with medical syringes attached filled with varying ratios of air to water. from the results of this it was found that the syringe filled entirely with water was actually the syringe that was most efficient (absorbed the most force). I figured this to be due to this syringe absorbing more kinetic energy becasue it lost the most weight (Ek = 1/2mv^2). But I was just thinking that the differnce in the mass of air and water isn't that much, is it? I figured the dfference would be only the mass of the two additional hydrogen ions, but this is only 2. so the relative atomic mass of oxygen is 16 and the atomic mass of H2O would be 18. the diffence between these two is really small, whereas in the tests the syringe involving air compressed 7 of a possible 12cm and in the test involving water the syringe compressed only 1 cm a relatively large differnce(for aproximately the same velocities)

Is this correct how diffence in the mass of the air and water was calculated or should this be done in another way? would anyone have anyother ideas why the syringe filled entirely with ar would've been the most successful?

Thanks of the help
 
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What about the densities of air and water, the water would be much more dense than the air, regardless of how similar the molecular masses are. A better approximation for your molar mass of air would be considering a mixture of 80% molecular Nitrogen (N2) and 20% molecular Oxygen (O2)
 
You have notice that rain falls haven't you? Water is considerably heavier than air.
 
Try this simple experiment in the privacy of your home.

Take two identical containers. Fill one container with air. Fill the other with water. See which container is heavier. You may use a scale or any other weighing device to find out which container is heavier.
 
Something that you must factor in is that water is incompressible whereas air is highly compressible.

In the extreme case, if your syringes are blocked (i.e. piston goes in but no air/water escapes), then, when force is applied, the water syringe will not budge, whereas the air syringe will be highly ... budgeable.
 

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