Undergrad Why is [x^x^x]' NOT (xln(x)^2+ln(x)+xln(x)+1)*x^(x+x^x)?

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of the function y = x^(x^x) and the discrepancies in results obtained from various tools like Mathematica and Symbolab. The original poster struggles to reconcile their manual calculations with these tools, specifically questioning the application of the chain rule in their differentiation process. They initially misrepresented x^x^x as x^x raised to the power of x^x, leading to confusion in their calculations. After clarification, it is suggested to apply the natural logarithm and implicit differentiation to correctly derive dy/dx. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately interpreting the function's structure when applying differentiation techniques.
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Mathamatica, Symbolab, manual differentiation all return diffrent forumals, I cannot see wolfram's intermediary steps, symbolab's intermediary steps seem like they're treating a function like a constant and I can't trust my work when everything else disagrees, but i don't see where my logic would falter as long as x^x^x can be represented by f(x) = x^x, g(x) = x^x, x^x^x = f(g(x))

$$\frac{dy}{dx} of y = e^x^x $$ is

y = e^x^x

y' = q(g(x))' = q'(g(x))*g'

g(x) = x^x, q(x) = e^x
g'(x) = (ln(x) + 1)*x^x, q'(x) = e^x

y' = e^x^x * (ln(x) + 1)*x^x

y' = x^x * (ln(x) + 1)*e^x^x

The above is correct, dy/dx x^x was obtained via:
g(x) = x^x
ln(g) = xln(x)
ln(g)' = (xln(x))'
ln(g)' = 1 * ln(x) + x * 1/x
g'/g = 1 * ln(x) + x * 1/x
g'/g = ln(x) + 1
g' = (ln(x) + 1)*x^x

But when i try continue for e^x^x^x via chain rule
t=x^x^x = f(g(x))
f=x^x g = x^x
f' = (ln(x) + 1)*x^x, g' = (ln(x) + 1)*x^x

(f(g(x)))' = f'(g(x))*g'(x) = (ln(x) + 1)(ln(x^x) + 1)*x^x^x * x^x = (xln(x)^2 + ln(x) + xln(x) + 1) * x^(x + x^x)

dy/dx x^x^x = (xln(x)^2 + ln(x) + xln(x) + 1) * x^(x + x^x)

I obtain the incorrect answer, as wolfram says dy/dx of x^x^x = e^x^x^x * (xln(x)^2 + xln(x) + 1) * x^(x + x^x -1), but I do not have the professional version of wolfram, thus I cannot see the intermediary steps, and cannot find this information anywhere else,

Any help appreciated.
 
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NotASmurf said:
i don't see where my logic would falter as long as x^x^x can be represented by f(x) = x^x, g(x) = x^x, x^x^x = f(g(x))
If f(x) = g(x) = ##x^x## then f(g(x)) = ##g(x)^{g(x)}## = ##(x^x)^{(x^x)}##
 
ah, damn, should have noticed that. Thanks so much.
 
How would i make it into a chain rule form? x^x^x not (x^x)^(x^x)?
 
NotASmurf said:
How would i make it into a chain rule form? x^x^x not (x^x)^(x^x)?
For ## dy/dx ## where ## y=x^{(x^x)} ##, I do not get the answer you quoted from Wolfram, but the calculation should be straightforward. Write ## y=x^{(x^x)} ## and take the natural twice on both sides of the equation. Then simply apply the chain rule and implicit differentiation of both sides and solve for ## dy/dx ##. ## \\ ## In fact I am in agreement with what you quoted from Wolfram other than the factor ## e^{(x^{(x^x)})} ## which I have as simply being 1.
 
Charles Link said:
For ## dy/dx ## where ## y=x^{(x^x}) ##, I do not get the answer you quoted from Wolfram, .

I checked with a knowingly working tetration differentiation formula, although berkeman pointed out , my mistake was that what I typed as x^x^x is actually (x^x)^(x^x). Thanks though.
 

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