Why Isn't My EM Stress Tensor Calculation Giving the Expected Result?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the electromagnetic stress tensor in the context of electric and magnetic fields, specifically focusing on the interpretation of pressure and tension exerted by these fields in Gaussian cgs units.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to verify the stress tensor formula and expresses confusion regarding the meaning of pressure being orthogonal to the electric field direction. They question how to interpret the pressure when the electric field is aligned along one axis.
  • Some participants clarify that the component ##T_{xy}## represents shear stress rather than pressure and suggest examining the stress tensor components based on the orientation of the electric field.
  • Further exploration includes calculating specific values for ##T_{xx}## based on different orientations of the electric field and questioning the implications of negative values in the context of stress.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants providing clarifications and exploring different interpretations of the stress tensor. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the concepts involved, particularly regarding the nature of stress and strain in electromagnetic contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions and implications of stress tensor components, with some uncertainty about the physical meaning of negative stress values and how they relate to the forces acting on the material.

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Homework Statement


An electric field E exerts (in Gaussian cgs units) a pressure E2/8π orthogonal to itself and a tension of this same magnitude along itself. Similarly, a magnetic field B exerts a pressure B2/8π orthogonal to itself and a tension of this same magnitude along itself. Verify that the following stress tensor embodies these stresses:
T = 1/ 8π ((E2 + B2 )g − 2(EE + B B))

Homework Equations


##T_{ii}=P##

The Attempt at a Solution


##T_{xx}=P=1/ 8π(\textbf{E}^2 + \textbf{B}^2-2(E_x^2 + B_x^2))=1/ 8π(-E_x^2- B_x^2 + E_y^2+ B_y^2+ E_z^2 + B_z^2)##
##T_{xy}=2/ 8π(-E_xE_y- B_xB_y )##
Why I didn't get a right result? I probably don't understand "a pressure orthogonal to itself". In particular, it means that if E=(Ex,0,0) so in which direction is pressure? I would say in same but there is written orthogonal.
Please advise.
 
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##T_{xy}## is not a pressure, it is a shear stress component. The correct question to ask is what ##T_{xx}## is when the electric (or magnetic) field is in the ##x##-direction versus what it is when the electric (or magnetic) field is in the ##y##-direction.
 
Orodruin said:
##T_{xy}## is not a pressure, it is a shear stress component. The correct question to ask is what ##T_{xx}## is when the electric (or magnetic) field is in the ##x##-direction versus what it is when the electric (or magnetic) field is in the ##y##-direction.
Ok. So to your question (only in electric field):
1) ##\textbf{E}=(E1,0,0)##: ##T_{xx}=\textbf{E}^2-2E1^2=-E1^2##

2) ##\textbf{E}=(0,E1,0)##: ##T_{xx}=\textbf{E}^2=E1^2##

Second thing is whether I understand stress tensor. So I try to explain what it is ##T_{xx}##: We have defined unit area ##\textbf{a}## as unit vector perpendicular on this area. Let's say ##\textbf{a}=(1,0,0)## (##y-z## plane). Then ##T_{xx}## is force in ##x## direction on unit area ##\textbf{a}## (pressure).
From that I am confused from results which I have got. Minus pressure? What is wrong?
 
Nothing is wrong. Strains can be both positive and negative. It depends on the force across the area.

If you think about the stress tensor in regular solid mechanics, it would correspond to pulling vs pushing the material. (The EM stress tensor is just the same!)
 

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