Why it is the goal to achieve 5 stars in something?

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The discussion revolves around the reasoning behind the common practice of using a 5-star rating system. Participants explore various theories and personal opinions regarding why 5 stars are chosen as a standard, as opposed to other numbers like 3, 6, or more.

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  • Some participants suggest that 5 stars allow for a simple breakdown of ratings, with a clear distinction between levels of satisfaction.
  • Others argue that using an even number like 6 would not provide a neutral midpoint, while 3 stars might lack the detail needed to differentiate between varying levels of quality.
  • One participant mentions that 5 stars are visually easy to enumerate at a glance, which might contribute to its popularity.
  • Another viewpoint expresses frustration with the limitations of a 5-star system, suggesting a desire for a 6-star option to better capture quality.
  • A mathematical model is proposed that describes a hierarchy system where the time to progress through levels could justify a 5-level rating system.
  • Some comments reference cultural elements, such as a humorous movie scene, which may not directly relate to the rating system but reflect on the broader context of the discussion.

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement, with no clear consensus on the reasons for the 5-star system. Various competing views remain, particularly regarding the effectiveness and limitations of the rating scale.

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Some participants mention the challenges of counting and visual enumeration, which may influence the preference for a 5-star system. Additionally, the discussion includes speculative reasoning about the origins and implications of the rating system.

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Does anyone know why it is the goal to achieve 5 stars in something? Why not 3 or 6 or 9 or 358? I personally would have started the trend at getting 6 stars, being that it's a perfect number and all...
 
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This is just a complete guess, but I'd imagine it's because it allows for a simple breakdown of what the stars mean.

1: hate
2: dislike
3: neutral
4: like
5: love

Six stars wouldn't allow a "middle," nor would any even number. Three starts wouldn't give the level of detail required to distinguish between something that's pretty good and something that's great. Seven stars would be overly complicated.
 
Fingers.
 
Ah, that makes sense, Jack. I thought about fingers, but 10 is the base of our # system, so I wasn't sure why we would define perfection/love as half of what's possible.
 
Because there's 5 stars in the sky.
 
Maybe it's because you can immediately see the rank at a glance. That is, it's easy to distinguish 2 stars from 3, and 3 stars from 4.
 
some people can't count to ten---


and it would take up too much space on the page, and too long to count to get right when there's a bunch to go through
 
I agree with lisab. Most people can't enumerate groups much above 7 at a glance unless they are cued with patterns like pips on playing cards. 5 or any fraction thereof is easy to enumerate at a glance.
 
I find it extremely frustrating myself. When we go out we like to eat in 5-star restaurants and stay at 5-star hotels. However, when you get used to it, it pales. You end up wishing for a 6-star restaurant. Boy, I'll bet you'd get some tasty chow there.
 
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I think the most reasonable explanation is someone arbitrarily chose 5 as the maximum rank of something, then other people followed suit for other rankings. The next most reasonable is jack's explanation, combined with Lisa's.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
I find it extremely frustrating myself. When we go out we like to eat in 5-star restaurants and stay at 5-star hotels. However, when you get used to it, it pales. You end up wishing for a 6-star restaurant. Boy, I'll bet you'd get some tasty chow there.

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rewebster said:
some people can't count to ten---
"Our's goes to eleven."
 
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aaaahahaha...one of my favorite movies scenes of all time, and both rewebster and Chi were all over it...ahahha...:smile:
 
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My Fender Tweed Deluxe went to 12. Now that was a screaming little amp. Those little tweeds are featured on lots of recordings, and all the knobs on them went to 12.
 
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lisab said:
aaaahahaha...one of my favorite movies scenes of all time, and both rewebster and Chi were all over it...ahahha...:smile:

my thoughts went to George Bush and Sarah Palin after watching that scene
 
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:smile: Thanks rewebster, I had never seen that before. The final "these go to eleven" made me lol out loud.
 
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Imagine that there is some hierarchy system in which it takes, on average, the same length in time to progress to the next level as it did for all of the previous levels. Let [itex]t_{n}[/itex] denote the (average) time to complete the [itex]n[/itex]-th level. The unit of time we use is such that [itex]t_{1}[/itex] = 1. Also, let us denote with:
[tex] T_{n} = \sum_{k = 1}^{n}{t_{k}}[/tex]
the total time necessary to complete the first [itex]n[/itex] steps. What my condition states mathematically is:
[tex] t_{n + 1} = T_{n}, \; n \ge 1[/tex]
Using the (obvious) recursive relation:
[tex] t_{n + 1} = T_{n+1} - T_{n}, \; n \ge 1[/tex]
we get the following recursion for the total times:
[tex] T_{n + 1} = 2 T_{n}, \; n \ge 1[/tex]
This defines a geometric sequence with a quotient 2 and the first element is [itex]T_{1} = t_{1} = 1[/itex]. Therefore, we may write:
[tex] T_{n} = 2^{n - 1}, \; n \ge 1[/tex]

Thus, for completing 5 levels it would take 16 units and for completing 6 levels 32 units. If the available timespan is in this interval, it would make sense to define 5 levels.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
:smile: Thanks rewebster, I had never seen that before. The final "these go to eleven" made me lol out loud.

Then you would *love* the movie it's from: This Is Spinal Tap!
 
  • #19
lisab said:
Then you would *love* the movie it's from: This Is Spinal Tap!
Gotta love the Stonehenge bit!
 
  • #20
Dickfore said:
Imagine that there is some hierarchy system in which it takes, on average, the same length in time to progress to the next level as it did for all of the previous levels.


But if we truly live in a perfect world, spending time on something can only make it worse. So the rating system should start at 5 and go on to infinity
 
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turbo-1 said:
Gotta love the Stonehenge bit!
I do not have much of a sense of humor. The list of famous comedians that I don't find funny is quite long and the ones I do like were never very popular. I just saw the Stonehenge bit and didn't find it even amusing. I get the impression that from my point of view this was a one joke movie.
 

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