Why negative times negative is positive

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The discussion revolves around the question of why the product of two negative numbers results in a positive number. Participants explore various explanations, including mathematical properties, visual interpretations, and references to educational resources.

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  • Some participants suggest that the distributive law can be used to demonstrate why (-) * (-) = (+), using specific examples with variables.
  • One participant proposes a geometric interpretation, suggesting that reflecting a number through the origin twice returns the original number.
  • A participant offers a method based on integer multiplication and division, explaining the reasoning behind the signs of products.
  • Several participants share links to external resources that provide additional explanations and perspectives on the topic.
  • Some participants express that the explanations may not be universally acceptable without knowing the audience's preferences for understanding.

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There is no consensus on a single explanation for why negative times negative equals positive. Multiple competing views and interpretations are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some explanations rely on specific mathematical properties and assumptions, such as the distributive law and the nature of integers, which may not encompass all number systems.

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This discussion may be of interest to students seeking to understand the concept of multiplication involving negative numbers, educators looking for diverse explanations, and anyone curious about mathematical reasoning behind sign conventions.

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hey friend can anybody give answer?
why (-) * (-) = (+)
 
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Its impossible to give an explanation that you would accept without knowing what kind of explanation you would accept!

For example, one can show that a(b+ c)= ab+ ac (the "distributive law"). In particular, if we take a=-x, b=y, c= -y, that says -x(y+ (-y))= -x(y)+ (-x)(-y). But y+(-y)= 0 and -x(0)= 0 so that tells us that -x(y)+ (-x)(-y)= 0. Adding x(y) to both sides, -x(-y)= x(y).

Is that acceptable?
 


Think of -a as a reflection of a through the origin. Reflecting twice gives you back a: -(-a) = a.
 
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nice link
 
I have a simple explanation if u confined to Integers only
first of u need to know why - * + = -
multiplication is seemed to be derived from addition. Like2*3=2+2+2. and 3+4=3+3+3+3..
So when u write (-3)*4= (-3)+ (-3)+ (-3)+ (-3)=- (-12)
hence it is proved that (-)* (+)= (-)

Now come to (-)* (-)= (+)
Let me say u want to solve the question something like this. (-1)/1. you must have done divisions in primary classes where you make make a pie ∏ shape. write denominator part inside and numerator part outside etc,..
when u do such ting with (-1)/1. then u have two choices for quotient 1 or (-1). If u put 1 then using quotient rule. 1*(-1)+0=1 . But it's wrong so -1 is only answer u can think of..

All this is poor explanation since real numbers and complex number are not taken.
Hallsoflvy said:
Its impossible to give an explanation that you would accept without knowing what kind of explanation you would accept!

For example, one can show that a(b+ c)= ab+ ac (the "distributive law"). In particular, if we take a=-x, b=y, c= -y, that says -x(y+ (-y))= -x(y)+ (-x)(-y). But y+(-y)= 0 and -x(0)= 0 so that tells us that -x(y)+ (-x)(-y)= 0. Adding x(y) to both sides, -x(-y)= x(y).

Is that acceptable?
these all are based on logics and data.2+(3+5)=2*8=2*3+2*5 after many tries it was found that is applicable everywhere so it's made as property of numbers.
similar about others...
 
mathforum is also not bad..
 

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