This thread is specially targeted to the Administrators and Moderators of Physicsforums.com to allow and support the discussions on perpetual motion machines. The concept of the perpetual motion machines have interested me and most probably a lot of you since a long time. Time and again new concepts arise from new science enthusiast and subsequently are they reasonably(in my opinion - not reasonably) suppressed by Laws of Physics and Physics Gurus. Even the rules in PF forum also prohibits any discussions on perpetual motion machines. My main point here being that the existence of perpetual motion and discussion for the same in this forum is suppressed by two major rules since it is supposed to violate them; 1)Law of Conservation or Energy and 2)Law of Thermodynamics. But, are we sure that these Physical laws are complete in themselves or they hold good for all conditions ; or have we discovered all physical laws and there are non to be further discovered. I mean we are still debating or can't tell for certain whether light is a wave or particle neither have we been able to derive real atomic model or an equation for Unification Theory . Yes, certainly there are various things to be discovered and there must exist various undiscovered physical laws and surprising phenomena. Few of which we are working on like Higg's Boson , Teleportation etc and there are numerous undefined natural phenomena like dreams, spirits, visions etc Forum like this is an ideal platform to discuss new ideas and concepts regarding such issues. Discussion on such related issues involving concepts and logic of various science enthusiasts may result in discovery of surprisingly new or so far hidden physical laws and phenomena - I insist the same holds good for perpetual motion phenomenon and hence we should encourage the discussion of such concepts. The phrase 'Perpetual Motion Machines' and the context that have been related to it so far might be somewhat misleading but I think the concept inherent in itself is very useful in improving the efficiency of various machines and power generating devices. The machines like Monopole Magnetic rotors, Boyle's Flask, Overbalanced wheel may not work 100% perpetually but they can be made to work very efficiently providing very less energy or with high o/p to i/p energy ratio. We could invent devices having architecture similar to perpetual machines. that would harness and efficiently utilize the energy from sources like magnetic energy, gravity etc I sometimes even feel that there might be Macroeconomics and Politics involved in suppressing the development of perpetual machines or near 100% efficient machine since this may lead to low consumption or utilization of energy sources like petroleum and nuclear energy produced by such countries which might lead to lowering of their economy. I would like to invite the interested to the discussion and would appreciate your opinions and comments over this matter.