Why Should a Boat Row at 90 Degrees to Cross a River Fastest?

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The discussion revolves around a relative velocity problem involving a boy rowing across a river. The boy can row at 2 m/s in still water, while the river flows at 1 m/s. The main question is at which angle he should point his boat to cross the river in the shortest time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the relevant equations for relative velocity. Some question the interpretation of the boat's speed and the implications of the river's current on the rowing angle.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights regarding the direction the boy should row, while others are clarifying the definitions of the velocities involved. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the boy not caring about how far downstream he goes, which may influence the approach to the problem. Additionally, the distinction between the boat's speed in still water versus its speed relative to the river is being discussed.

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Hi!
I'm having trouble with some relative velocity problems.

Example A)
A boy wishes to row across a river in the shortest possible time. He can row at 2 m/s in still water and the river is flowing at 1 m/s. At which angle (theta) should he point the bow (front) of his boat.

I tried to set up a triangle and use a trig function...but I am not getting the correct answer.
The book says that the answer is 90 degrees.

I believe the relevant equation is velocity of the boat with respect to Earth = velocity of the boat with respect to water + velocity of the water respect to earth

V(be)=V(bw)+V(we)
and I solve for v(bw) since they give me 2 m/s (boat with respect to Earth ?) and 1 m/s (water with repsect to earth)

Then I tried to to inverse sin of (2/ sqrt(3)) but the answer is def. not 90.
 
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Hi crazyog,

The boat's velocity of 2 m/s is relative to the water, and the direction of the bow of the boat will be the direction of the velocity of the boat with respect to the water.

However, if I'm reading the problem correctly I don't think you actually need some of those details. The way I read it is that the boy just want to reach the other side of the river as fast as possible, and the important thing is he does not care how far downstream he happens to go along the way.
 
crazyog said:
Hi!
I'm having trouble with some relative velocity problems.

Example A)
A boy wishes to row across a river in the shortest possible time. He can row at 2 m/s in still water and the river is flowing at 1 m/s. At which angle (theta) should he point the bow (front) of his boat.

I tried to set up a triangle and use a trig function...but I am not getting the correct answer.
The book says that the answer is 90 degrees.

I believe the relevant equation is velocity of the boat with respect to Earth = velocity of the boat with respect to water + velocity of the water respect to earth

V(be)=V(bw)+V(we)
and I solve for v(bw) since they give me 2 m/s (boat with respect to Earth ?) and 1 m/s (water with repsect to earth)

Then I tried to to inverse sin of (2/ sqrt(3)) but the answer is def. not 90.

Try considering it from the frame of the water. i.e., the water is motionless, and the bank is moving at 1 m/s.

Sheldon
 
An answer of 90 degrees is compatible with alphysists' answer
 
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Hi crazyog! Welcome to PF! :smile:
crazyog said:
… they give me 2 m/s (boat with respect to Earth ?)

ah … that's why you're getting the wrong result … "in still water" means that the 2 m/s is boat with respect to water. :smile:
 

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