Why the mass of steam formed during condensation is equal to 9H2

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the mass of steam produced during the combustion of fuel and the mass of hydrogen in that fuel. Participants are exploring the equation that relates the lower calorific value of fuel to the heat of steam formed during combustion, specifically questioning why the mass of steam is represented as 9H2.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the derivation of the mass of steam as 9H2 and questioning the underlying chemical reactions involved. Some are exploring the implications of this ratio in practical scenarios, such as the combustion process and the resulting steam production.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions behind the 9H2 ratio, with participants discussing the conditions under which this approximation holds true. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between hydrogen and water mass, but no consensus has been reached on the broader implications or the exact nature of the chemical reactions involved.

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Participants note that the ratio assumes complete combustion of hydrogen and that the steam is at boiling point, which may not always be the case in practical applications. There is also mention of moisture content in the fuel affecting the calculations.

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1. Why the mass of steam formed during condensation is equal to 9H2

While studying about the lower calorific value of fuel the equation is
L.C.V.= H.C.V. – heat of steam formed during combustion

Now here in the book they have written that,
Let ms = mass of steam formed in per kg of fuel = 9H2

Since the amount of heat per kg of steam is the latent heat of vaporization of water
corresponding to standard temperature of 15°C, is 2466 kJ/kg,

∴ L.C.V. = H.C.V.- ms X 2466 kJ/kg
= H.C.V. - 9H2 X 2466 kJ/kg …(∵ ms = 9H2)

What i don't understand is why this ms is equal to 9H2? what is the chemical reaction here? Why this value is considered constant for all fuels? can anyone please explain?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
I also found:
http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=...q=9H2 steam for each kilogram of fuel&f=false
The mass of steam produced per kilogram of fuel is ##9H_2 + m## where ##m## is the mass of moisture per kilogram of fuel ... ##H_2## is the mass of hydrogen per kilogram of fuel

The steam comes from the combustion of hydrogen in oxygen to make water.
##H_2## is roughly 1/9th the mass of water molecules.

So 1 kg of H2 is equivalent to 9 kg of water or steam. So if our fuel has 5 kg H2 then 5X9 kg of steam will be formed. And if we condense it we will get this massX latent heat of vaporization of water=heat of steam formed during condensation.
Did I get it right?
 
So 1 kg of H2 is equivalent to 9 kg of water or steam. So if our fuel has 5 kg H2 then 5X9 kg of steam will be formed. And if we condense it we will get this massX latent heat of vaporization of water=heat of steam formed during condensation.
That's what I read - yep.

Careful - the ratio is approximate. It assumes all the hydrogen in the fuel gets used to make water - i.e. a very clean burn. The steam is at the boiling point. Stuff like that.
Good enough for a back-of-envelope calculation.
 
Thanks for the help.. :)
 
No worries.
 

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