Why The Protests in Egypt Were Inspiring

[John Creighto]

I think the Egypt protests were inspiring because in Egypt they weren't able to shut down the internet but in Britain and In the US there were instances were cell phone messaging was shut down. There was calls to shut down twitter and people have been jailed for a protest that didn't happen. Maybe it's not comparable but there was a feeling by some that decent in the west was crushed.

I mean what they did in Egypt was truly inspiring weather or not the situations there is at all comparable to America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbHVQrXVPn0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKrXX7BZvBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6TV8y98BAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-bj69fyKPs

but weather they are comparable or not it is important for people to speak up before the people lose the freedom that they are so often told they have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU5gA6IcIpk

 

[DoggerDan]

Lol, wrong section. In fact, I think you're on the wrong forums entirely.

Good luck, though!

 

[John Creighto]

Here are some relevant posts from the OWS thread about the connection between the current protest and the Egypt protest.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3556445&postcount=395
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3561621&postcount=453

here is what it says in Maclean's Magazine:

A strange twist on this American phenomenon is the role Canada has played in fomenting the rebellion. Adbusters, a Vancouver-based anti-consumerist magazine, was first to promote the protests, agitating for an American Arab Spring. Some of the Occupy Wall Street movement’s most prominent luminaries are either Canadian or have strong ties to Canada. Naomi Klein, author of such seminal texts for the movement as No Logo and The Shock Doctrine, tweeted she would join the protest this week. Already in Manhattan is Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer Prize-winning former New York Times reporter and writer who has become a star of the movement, is married to a Canadian, frequently publishes in Adbusters, and last fall taught as a visiting prof at the University of Toronto.
...
We kept saying, ‘Well, why should we let the Tea Party have all the fun? And what would it take for us lefties to have that sort of passion, that sort of grassroots organization?’ ” Lasn’s brainstorming group hammered out a modern-day rallying cry—a hashtag, #occupywallstreet—allowing legions of Twitter users to search for and monitor the discussion.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/10/10/war-on-wall-street/

P.S. since the more modern version of this poem was taken down in my previous post here is the original version (not copyrighted) as well as the Wikipedia link I previously provided:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came…

 

[Astronuc]

I think others were inspired by the fact that the uprising lead to an overthrow of a 30 year dictatorship.

 

[Evo]

Now there is terrible violence in Egypt against Christians. The military has used horrific methods such as driving speeding vehicles into crowds.

Promised speedy elections have been repeatedly postponed.

Watch the video.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1211457729001/violence-against-christians-in-egypt/

 

[rootX]

Those protests were just hype .. I was more disappointed in the chaos than inspired.

 

[mege]

So, for the situation in Egypt to be comparable - are you calling President Obama a dictator? I'm not the guys biggest fan, but I wouldn't go that far.

Other than possible localized infrastructure failure - who said anything about internet/phone/messaging access being interupted at all? Do you have a reliable source talking, even as a possibility, of intentional censorship by the US? (Britian has been known to do it for security reasons, but the US?)

 

[chiro]

So, for the situation in Egypt to be comparable - are you calling President Obama a dictator? I'm not the guys biggest fan, but I wouldn't go that far.

Didn't the guy authorize the US to enter the Libyan war without the approval of Congress?

 

[WhoWee]

Didn't the guy authorize the US to enter the Libyan war without the approval of Congress?

I'm certainly not the President's biggest fan - but Libya remains a dangerous place. Someone needs to find those shoulder-fired weapons.

 

[rootX]

Troubles seem to be reappearing ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15848602
Egypt unrest: Cairo protests continue despite military concessions

 

[Office_Shredder]

So, for the situation in Egypt to be comparable - are you calling President Obama a dictator? I'm not the guys biggest fan, but I wouldn't go that far.

Other than possible localized infrastructure failure - who said anything about internet/phone/messaging access being interupted at all? Do you have a reliable source talking, even as a possibility, of intentional censorship by the US? (Britian has been known to do it for security reasons, but the US?)

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/08/brainchild-subway-cellphone-shutdown/

San Francisco shut off cell phone service to stifle communications for a planned protest in the subways

EDIT: Agh just realized all this stuff is a month old... oh well I'm leaving this up

 

[Proton Soup]

Troubles seem to be reappearing ...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15848602
Egypt unrest: Cairo protests continue despite military concessions

the protesters don't think they're making a concession. they think they're setting up a military dictatorship. i wouldn't expect the protestors to back off until the military is out of power.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2011/11/western-media-do-not-say-why-egyptians-protest.html

Last week the military demanded that its supremacy over the civilian government shall be enshrined in a new constitution and made permanent. Thereby creating a military dictatorship with a democratic facade.

But reading the "western" mainstream media one will not learn about the protests' reason at all. The real, immediate reason of these protests does not exist in those reports. Instead the protesters are depicted as unreasonable delaying the upcoming sham elections.

As Al Arabiya wrote on Friday:

The rally was called to protest a document floated by the government which declares the military the guardian of “constitutional legitimacy,” suggesting the armed forces could have the final word on major policies even after a new president is elected. The document, which includes guiding principles for Egypt's new constitution, also introduces clauses that would shield it from civilian oversight.​

and fwiw, monstrous things are still being done in egyptian jails. less than a month ago:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/10/2011102911326932794.html

A 24-year-old Egyptian man sentenced by a military court to two years in prison has been tortured to death by his guards, the man's family and human rights activists have alleged.

Guards at Cairo's Tora Prison, where Essam Atta was being held, pushed hoses into Atta's mouth and anus and flooded his body with water on Thursday, according to the man's family, who said they received calls from other inmates who had seen the torture occur.

Atta was pronounced dead at the capital's Kasr el-Aini hospital on Thursday night and protesters marched with his body through Tahrir Square on Friday.

 

[Proton Soup]

some photos showing weapons used by the military on protesters in Tahrir on Nov. 20.
mostly what looks like rubber bullets and tear gas canisters. a couple of the shots are bloody, if you're squeamish. losing eyes is a real danger there.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maggieosama/sets/72157628065775905/with/6371059159/

 

[Proton Soup]

ugh, bloody legacy for Steve Jobs. 3 years to fix a security flaw in iTunes, when it should only take 3 months. allowing a British company to sell spyware to foreign governments such as Egypt, so that those governments can do things like murder them with garden hose enemas. just great.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...aw-allowed-government-spying-for-3-years.html

 

[widereader]

The Philippines also had overthrown the dictatorship of Marcos. It was through People Power. It only shows that people will not let anyone overabuse them.

 

[scottbekerham]

Now there is terrible violence in Egypt against Christians. The military has used horrific methods such as driving speeding vehicles into crowds.

Promised speedy elections have been repeatedly postponed.

Watch the video.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1211457729001/violence-against-christians-in-egypt/

Don't believe everything Fox news says .Fox news speaks for people who plan to divide Egypt to a coptic state and a muslim state similar to what they did in Sudan and plan to do in nigeria , Yemen and other countries