Will 2 particles with paths crossed collide?

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The problem involves two particles with specified initial positions and velocity vectors. Particle A starts at the origin and moves at a velocity of 10 km/h at an angle of 30 degrees relative to the y-axis, while particle B starts at (0,5) and moves at 8 km/h at an angle of 60 degrees relative to the y-axis. The main question is whether these particles will collide and, if not, what the minimal distance between them will be.

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  • Participants discuss finding position vectors for both particles and equating them to determine potential collision points. There is uncertainty about the validity of equating positions if a collision is not guaranteed. Some participants suggest exploring the concept of relative velocity and its implications.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to analyze the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding checking displacements in both x and y directions to determine if the particles meet. However, there is still confusion about the assumptions being made and the implications of those assumptions.

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There is mention of a specific answer regarding the minimal distance between the particles, but participants are questioning the reasoning behind equating positions when the possibility of collision is uncertain. This raises concerns about the assumptions being made in the problem setup.

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The first particle A is starting at origin and it has a velocity vector with magnitude 10km/h and moves at an angle of 30 degrees relative to y axis. The second particle B is starting at (0,5) and it has velocity vector with magnitude 8km/h and moves at an agle of 60 degrees relative to y axis. Will these 2 particles colide, and if not, what is the minimal distance they will be at?

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I found the velocity vectors with given angles/magnitudes. I'm not sure what to do now.
 
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The particles will collide at time where both at x and y displacement are equal if time t exist.
 
Yeah I got position vector rA and rB from formula r(t)=v*t, where r and v are vectors. They have this form rA=x*t*i + y*t*j where i and j are unit vectors. What do I get from equatting positions, how do I calculate time from that?

The correct answer is that they don't collide and minimal distance is 1.8km. So does it really make sense to equate postitions if we're not 100% sure they'll collide? I am really confused :/
 
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Find time in y direction where both displacements are equal. Then on x direction or component. If both time are equal then they meet.
 
jefer,

Have you studied the concept of relative velocity? If so, what is the velocity of B relative to A?
 
jefer said:
So does it really make sense to equate positions if we're not 100% sure they'll collide? I'm really confused. :/
When trying to solve the problem, you can assume they'll collide and see what consequences arise from that assumption. If the consequences don't make sense, then you can conclude that the assumption was wrong. It's like a proof by contradiction in math, if you're familiar with those.
 

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